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sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days agoHow many brown people do you want to die
How many have or are likely to die due to this? That would obviously depend on the duration of detention, and I honestly don’t know much about that, but these people should have the right of due process since they’re on US soil (5th and 14th amendments). So they can’t just be incarcerated indefinitely (habeas corpus), they’d have to be tried or released in a timely fashion.
The Holocaust differs in so many ways:
- were largely labor camps, which later became extermination camps - as a detention facility, this means people are not convicted and therefore legally protected under the 13th amendment from forced labor; likewise, capital punishment only applies to those convicted
- people taken w/o violating any actual crimes - the detention facility is for those suspected of immigration crimes
- the intent was genocide - intent for detention facility is temporary holding until people can be tried or deported
It’s not remotely the same thing, and comparing them is ridiculous rhetoric. Comparing everything the right does to Nazism and the Holocaust is intellectually dishonest, meant to convince someone to your side through emotional language instead of facts.
If there are deaths, they’re going to be incidental to incarceration, as in people already in poor health dying due to added stress of incarceration or something, and not something directly done by the guards.
Rather, they are, legally, but they’re being prevented from doing so anyway.
And unfortunately, that’s something that’s going to have to be worked out in the courts. According to US law, they must be subject to audit to ensure Constitutional Law is being followed.
Democrats are weak
True, but I’m not sure what this has to do w/ anything.
The Big Beautiful Bill includes a provision that judicial funds cannot be used to pursue rulings. This passed, so, if it can’t be repealed, this means it is illegal to use funds intended to punish criminals to seek punishment for Republicans breaking the law. This kills the law.
If that’s accurate (I haven’t reviewed it), then that provision will likely be struck down by a court. You can’t just hamstring the branch of the government that decides whether law is constitutional and expect them to just roll over, even the conservative Supreme Court would very likely strike this down.
If the majority of Republicans are not evil, as you say, then they should have no problem dropping the line.
And they have been. Look at Trump’s approval rating. I live in a very red state, and he has a net negative approval rating here, which is absolutely bonkers. This will have an impact on the next couple elections, but it’s hard to tell what the actual results will be. But if Trump keeps pissing off his base, it could get very spicy indeed.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Wow.
You know, it’s no wonder you live in a red state; you’re still bought into the republican propoganda. I believe you that the “immigrants” rounded up into unmarked ICE vans will be tried fairly, and only the vile criminals among them will be deported to an El Salvador slave camp.
Deporting people en masse is genocide.
The conservative justices are loyal to the Republican party. The Republican party does not want to be held accountable. What on earth gives you the idea they’ll want to strike this down?
His approval rating is only down among Republicans because his tariffs have been hurting them and not the brown people they voted to kill.
They thought the white ethnostate Trump would usher in would make them lions among sheep, and they are only upset that they are among the sheep.
—Not to mention, listen to any on-the-streets interviews with republican voters about their disapproval, fucking all of them say they’d vote for him again.
Absolutely beside myself at your cavalier attitude. I do hope your state gets everything it voted for.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
That’s the absolutely horrendous part, and you should be criticizing those camps. This detention center isn’t that.
That’s not true. This is what genocide means:
Deportation is the national version of trespassing someone from a property. It’s not murder.
They’re really not. Their interests do often align, but that’s not because they’re taking orders from the GOP. If the GOP was actually able to tell them what to do, they’d side w/ Trump way more often.
That’s not what they did.
They largely voted for protectionism (save our jobs/businesses/etc), and now they’re feeling the results of that.
Only a small subset of Republicans are actually racist. I’m sure the same is true among Democrats as well.
Why? Because I refuse to jump on the Republican hate bandwagon? I’m not going to stoop to dangerous rhetoric to try to scare/shame people to my viewpoint.
I strongly disagree with Republicans on policy, but more importantly I see the two party system as the real problem here. Shilling one side over another just perpetuates that system and merely swings the pendulum the other way.
So no, I’m not going to buy into that nonsense. And my state is doing quite well, despite the best efforts of our legislature.