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Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How?

  Say, how is stealing from the bank mean you’re not guilty?

  (Or did you forget /s ?)

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  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    1. You did it but the evidence was obtained illegally and is inadmissible in court
    2. You did it but the specific circumstances make it legal, for example you where threatened or forced to do it by someone else, or you killed someone but it was in self-defense
    3. You did it but you have a mental disorder and can’t be responsible for your actions

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  • Signtist@bookwyr.me ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Guilty in the legal sense means you've been found to be guilty in the court of law. Until you've been tried, you're not guilty. Otherwise anyone could just say "that guy committed a crime" and it'd be their word against yours.

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  • flying_sheep@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Guilt means that someone did something that’s morally wrong. Everyone who isn’t a fucking Nazi would agree that punching fascists is morally laudable, yet it’s a crime you can get convicted for.

    You’d then have done it without being guilty of anything.

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  • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ** I am not a lawyer or have any legal training, but this is how I personally view the sign. Also, the example I give may be flawed, but I think it demonstrates the point well and can be applied to more accurate circumstances. **

    Another example is that you committed a crime, but not the crime they are trying to charge you with.

    For example,

    You and a friend rob a store. You didn’t know it going into it but your friend brought a gun.

    You get arrested and you both get charged with armed robbery.

    You are not guilty of armed robbery since only your friend had a gun. They would have to charge you with a crime that was accurate.

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  • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hitting someone with a car is generally seen as a crime, but what if the pedestrian was crossing the highway?

    There are many acts that are considered “crimes” that you might not be guilty of considering circumstances.

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