Comment on Man carrying home his gardening tools arrested by armed police in Manchester

• Zombie@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  ACAB is legitimate here. It’s not a Trumpism. Day to day community policing, yes, you can have good interactions with them. But they also have no qualms smashing a peaceful protestor over the head with a baton if they’re allowed as well. There’s been enough stories of corruption and abuse within multiple UK police forces, throughout its history and in modern times, to say ACAB.

  Also, is it fuck a fair kingdom.

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Loud minority. Everytime I have been involved with the police they went above and beyond.

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    • Zombie@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Unfortunately your anecdotal evidence doesn’t change history. My experience has been very mixed bag. Some have been despicable bastards and some, as you said, have gone above and beyond. But their history, and government inquiries confirming institutional racism etc cements them still in the bastard category.

      I do believe they’re improving, the force isn’t just 6ft+ white, straight, cis, British men any more. It’s diverse enough that homophobia, racism, etc are challenged and not tolerated like they once were, but it still happens. They’re still not good enough to throw off the badge of ACAB.

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      • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        SCAB,SAAD

        Some cops are bastard, some are actually decent

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    • tamal3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A middle class white lady in the US would probably concur regarding her own police experiences

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• AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  ACAB applies even for the nice and genuine cops.

  It’s about criticisms of policing as an institution, not individuals

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s about criticisms of policing as an institution, not individuals

    No, ACAB literally means “all cops are bastards”. It removes room for ambiguity. It’s not like someone saying “fuck the police”. And then they can say “I mean the institution”.

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• LilB0kChoy@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  These cops are bastards. Some cops are nice and genuine.

  This is true pretty much everywhere, even America.

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Then why do Americans constantly say “all cops are bastards?”

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    • LilB0kChoy@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It's a slogan used as a protest statement, particularly within anti-establishment and anti-police movements. The acronym has a long history, particularly within subcultures like punk, skinheads, and football hooligans. It's also associated with anarchist and anti-authoritarian ideologies.

      It also originated in England.

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    • Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      America is not nearly based enough for Americans to “constantly say” that, unfortunately.

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• pyre@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  acab was true way before mango mussolini was even born

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