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stephen01king@piefed.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

We're talking about the difference between government owned payment processors and for-profit ones when it comes to solving the issue of them giving undue influence to online stores.

Your argument for supporting goverment owned payment processors is that it shouldn't be solved within this lifetime because that's better? Wtf are you talking about?

When we win this one back, I think VISA should restrict you specifically from buying any porn games.

Here comes the American way of doing things. And you wonder why I don't trust the US government to not immediately misuse their power if they actually own payment processors. Thanks for proving my point.

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petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

shouldn’t

Shouldn’t?

because that’s better?

It is better.

I don’t trust the US government to not immediately misuse their power

Sounds like you should be involved, then. To keep them in check.

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- stephen01king@piefed.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yes, you said it shouldn't be easy and glamorising the fact that things had to be fought over more than a lifetime. Your words, not mine.
  
  It is better.
  Sure, it's better for you that your country can misuse its power longer. Not for people in other countries.
  
  Sounds like you should be involved, then.
  Sure Jan, tell me how I, a non-US person, is supposed to be involved in the mess that is your political system?
  
  It sure is easy to keep the US government in check compared to a bunch of for-profit payment processors, isn't it? I can just call the US government support number to voice my disapproval, can't I?
  
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  - petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I said it shouldn’t only be easy.
    
    and glamorising the fact that things had to be fought over more than a lifetime.
    
    Those people are stronger than you, so sure, yeah.
    
    I can just call the US government support number to voice my disapproval, can’t I?
    
    Let me lay out a strategy for you:
    
    VISA has decided conservative authoritarianism is cool.
    
    We bully them into rescinding this.
    
    Later, VISA decides again that conservative authoritarianism is cool.
    
    We bully them into rescinding this.
    
    Later, when we have the means, we take their processor from them.
    
    Now, we don’t need to bully them. We own the processor. We decide what it does.
    
    The above plan is, literally, all I’m arguing for. You’re with everything until that final step. Why are you so against taking power?
    
    If you don’t trust the people in government, you should be in government then. Join your own country’s, pressure the US.
    
    If you would like “we” to be International, by all means. Go for it. I won’t stop you. I don’t need our PayPal to be owned by the US. Maybe all countries have their own PayPal. Maybe the UN governs one.
    
    None of these problems get solved whatsoever, though, if you refuse to be in power. One day, VISA will just stop taking your calls. You’ll get an answering machine that says, “We won the game for control of the world. Eat shit.”
    
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