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Comment on `continuwuity` vs `tuwunel`: where to go from `conduwuit`?

smiletolerantly@awful.systems ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Understandable. Funny thing is, I’m not even federated; I think that keeps me away from a lot of drama.

But yeah. The drama sucks, and so does the Matrix Foundation. So many dumb decisions, so many years old issues that could easily boost acceptance and usability, but… Nah. No better alternatives around though if you want to own your data, have proper multi-client support, and at least the option to federate.

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Mora@pawb.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

No better alternatives around though if you want to own your data, have proper multi-client support, and at least the option to federate.

What about XMPP? What can Matrix do, that XMPP cant?

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- smiletolerantly@awful.systems ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Hm, fair enough, I actually have very little experience with XMPP. (Only through prosody, which I personally am on a war footing with.) From a cursory glance, I also couldn’t find an Android lient I’d really want to use, but of course that is subjective.
  
  In any case: I have a matrix server up and running, and it has been a pain to get friends and family on there; I do not want to do all of that again with a new protocol/clients. As long as it’s sustainable, I want to stay with the same server installation, and that means choosing a conduwuit for me.
  
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  - Mora@pawb.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Understandable, trying to move friends and family between platforms is an herculean effort.
    
    For everyone else interested in XMPP, you might want to check out:
    
    Snikket as a Server (intended to run on a cheap VPS): snikket.org/service/quickstart/
    
    Conversations.im as a Client: conversations.im
    
    ejabberd/prosody if you want to setup your own from scratch
    
    this compliance scanner which checks for (probably) the most common extensions for a chat server: compliance.conversations.im
    
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