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• lowered_lifted@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  fuckin Steiner and the Theosophists get off the hook way too easy

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  • kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s funny watching Waldorf education advocates squirm when you bring Steiner’s opinions and ties to volkisch movements and ideologies.

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  • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The whole esoteric space has a neo-nazi undercurrent.

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• Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Can you substantiate your claims with some factual resources? Much appreciated.

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  • Actionschnils@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Naturalism en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism and Bilogism en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_determinism were a relevent movement in Germany in the late 19th and early 20th centuary. And for parts of the “Lebensreform” Bewegung en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensreform it was en vogue to be vegetarian or vegan. It was not a totally fascist movement, but some members were hard core racist and ableistic. The NSDAP claimed some of their values, and formed it into their own propaganda. FE:

    • Fkk into nazi body cult a la Leni Riefenstahl
    • Healthy, natural lifestyle in general into an arian, healthy lifestyle for a society ready to fight
    • esoteric views into their own arian pseudo-religion

    So as part of this, hitler was a propagandizing vegetarian. And Hitler and other leading nazis were some kind of “animal rights activist” …wikipedia.org/…/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany

    Some of this values are deeply printed into the NSDAP and are so part of today Nazis in Germany. “Nazi-Hippies” (as people in my bubble are caling them), are still a thing here.

    As far as i remeber, the German Green Party had in the founding times problems with Nazis in the party.

    If you want better sources, i can only give you german Documentaries from arte or dlf. Im just an interessted dude and not a historian or teacher. Im not prepared to present sources in English :)

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    • Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thank you and interesting information. This is partially in line sith what I can find. But there are some serious identifiable concerns. Although I am fairly confident that it has been debunked that Hitler was even a true vegetarian, let alone a long time one. It seems to have been a combination of multiple factors from what I can find. He was just a very picky eater, a well thought out Arian PR strategy around his abstenance from meat, alcohol and tobacco, food sensitivities and having a sweet tooth.

      Not all perfect sources, but enough to question the validity of his vegetarian status in my opinion.

      …wikipedia.org/…/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism?h….

      slate.com/…/was-hitler-a-vegetarian.html?hl=en-US….

      www.all-creatures.org/mfz/myths-hitler-rk.html?hl…

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      • Actionschnils@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “Propagandizing Vegetarian”, it doesent really matter if he really was one, imho

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  • Zombie@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Nazi in Chief was a vegetarian, so there’s that. Whether there’s anything beyond that I dunno, I’m not OP nor German

    …wikipedia.org/…/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism

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    • Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah, thanks. That’s indeed not news and doesn’t relate to what the guy said ofc. And not seeing evidence yet I find it highly offensive from them to state such a thing.

      Curious to hear their sources!

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