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rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 days agoI dunno, Firefox of 3.0 times was the shit. It itself was the browser that should be, more welcoming to customization than Windows of the time was to porn winlockers. They also had XULRunner for alternative ideas. Gecko was the FOSS browser engine that various alternative “nice” MacOS and Linux browsers used.
Though between 2004 and 2008 only four years passed. Less than between Windows 2000 and Vista (let’s ignore XP as a more glossy consumer version of 2000).
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
That feels like a dangerous argument;
Unless you are prepared to argue that everything since has just been an updated version of Vista.
mholiv@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Hot take. Under semantic versioning everything after vista has been in essence a new version of vista.
Going from NT 5.x to 6.x was a major jump.
The reason why Vista had no/terrible drivers was because they went from an insecure one driver bug crashed the whole system model to more secure isolated drivers that don’t crash the whole system. Developers had to learn how to write new drivers and none of the cap drivers worked.
They went from a single user OS with a multi user skin on top, to a full role based access control user system.
They went from global admin/non-admin permissions to scoped UAC permissions for apps.
Remember on Vista when apps constantly had that “asking for permissions” popup? That was then not using the 6.x UAC APIs.
Given the underlying architectural situation everything since Vista has been vista with polish added (or removed depending on how you look at it)
Things will go beyond vista when a new major release with new mandatory APIs shows up. Probably under NT 7.x.
pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 days ago
okay but using that logic everything running linux kernel v5 is the same… fedora, ubuntu, rhel are in essence just a reskin of slackware
an OS is not semantically versioned as a whole because an OS is more than just the kernel
mholiv@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I mean they are all literally the same operating system yah! They all use the same kernel APIs.
The main difference is package management.
cmhe@lemmy.world 5 days ago
What might be a valid argument in 5.x might not be an argument for 6.x.
But IMO, Windows 7, 8, 10 and 11 have more in common with vista than vista has with XP.
SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 5 days ago
Ok but XP was literally 2000 with a prettier default theme
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It’s just a versions list. And I’m mostly joking. Rather that the “feel” of using Windows between 2000 and XP didn’t seem to change much. (I prefer 2000)