So explain slavery. That was once morraly good. Hell, some still do.

What is there to explain? We aren’t the only species on the planet who take slaves.

There is no such thing that is universally good ot bad. If it were it would apply universally not just to the ingrown.

I know. Hasn’t stopped our species from fighting about it. Which is why my point is something “Bigger than humans” was required to unify our species beyond small groups who agree with one another.

We are seeing it all over thr world in real time. Murder should be a universally condemned act yet we see “moral” people screaming for the death of people they deemed unworthy every day

I know. Doesn’t change my point.

I am not arguing that “morality” is a universal inherent thing. In fact, I am arguing that it is not universal, not inherent, and you are supporting my point which is that Spirituality and Religion preclude Morality because “morality” is not universal and “something bigger than our species” was required to move beyond family sized units.

That does not mean it worked and we now live in a morally sound utopia.