Comment on ‘I blame Facebook’: Aaron Sorkin is writing a Social Network sequel for the post-Zuckerberg era
catty@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago…And under the current model, the egos of mods get crazy big as they see their community army grow bigger and they can shape it how they want, even stackoverflow suffered and developers left in droves long before LLM took its place.
I do miss the original imageboards though that used sage and was a community driven effort into moderation.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The mod ego problem will exist as long as there’s moderation, unfortunately.
It was present in the web even before it was expelled from heaven.
But it’s not necessary to remove all moderation, just global identifiers of posts and many different “moderating projections” of the same collection of data can be enough to change the climate for most of the users. Not moderation itself really matters - the ability to dominate, to shut someone’s mouth matters. If the only way you see a post is without such at all - then maybe it’s too rude. If it’s removed on the instance level on most of instances - then maybe it’s something really nasty that shouldn’t be seen. But if in some projection it’s visible and in some not - then we’ve solved this particular problem.
In such a hypothetical system.
catty@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah I agree of sorts and people have the right to be offended so I prefer looser moderation over the absolute otherwise there’s no difference between those groups that preach ‘everything inclusive (except what we don’t like)’ and those who are clearly extreme and have their own biases. The irony of freespeech is you’re going to hear things you don’t agree with, and that’s fine.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What I’m speaking about is that it should be impossible to do some things. If it’s possible, they will be done, and there’s nothing you can do about it.
To solve the problem of twiddled social media (and moderation used to assert dominance) we need a decentralized system of 90s Web reimagined, and Fediverse doesn’t deliver it - if Facebook and Reddit are feudal states, then Fediverse is a confederation of smaller feudal entities.
A post, a person, a community, a reaction and a change (by moderator or by the user) should be global entities (with global identifiers, so that the object by id of #0000001a2b3c4d6e7f890 would be the same object today or 10 years later on every server storing it) replicated over a network of servers similarly to Usenet (and to an IRC network, but in an IRC network servers are trusted, so it’s not a good example for a global system).
Really bad posts (or those by persons with history of posting such) should be banned on server level by everyone. The rest should be moderated by moderator reactions\changes of certain type.
Ideally, for pooling of resources and resilience, servers would be separated by types into storage nodes (I think the name says it, FTP servers can do the job, but no need to be limited by it), index nodes (scraping many storage nodes, giving out results in structured format fit for any user representation, say, as a sequence of posts in one community, or like a list of communities found by tag, or … , and possibly being connected into one DHT for Kademlia-like search, since no single index node will have everything), and (like in torrents?) tracker nodes for these and for identities, I think torrent-like announce-retrieve service is enough - to return a list of storage nodes storing, say, a specified partition (subspace of identifiers of objects, to make looking for something at least possibly efficient), or return a list of index nodes, or return a bunch of certificates and keys for an identity (should be somehow cryptographically connected to the global identifier of a person). So when a storage nodes comes online, it announces itself to a bunch of such trackers, similarly with index nodes, similarly with a user. One can also have a NOSTR-like service for real-time notifications by users.
This way you’d have a global untrusted pooled infrastructure, allowing to replace many platforms. With common data, identities, services. Objects in storage and index services can be, say, in a format including a set of tags and then the body. So a specific application needing to show only data related to it would just search on index services and display only objects with tags of, say, “holo_ns:talk.bullshit.starwars” and “holo_t:post”, like a sequence of posts with ability to comment, or maybe it would search objects with tags “holo_name:My 1999-like Star Wars holopage” and “holo_t:page” and display the links like search results in Google, and then clicking on that you’d see something presented like a webpage, except links would lead to global identifiers (or tag expressions interpreted by the particular application, who knows).
The user applications for that common infrastructure can be different at the same time. Some like Facebook, some like ICQ, some like a web browser, some like a newsreader.
(Star Wars is not a random reference, my whole habit of imagining tech stuff is from trying to imagine a science fiction world of the future, so yeah, this may seem like passive dreaming and it is.)