Comment on We need to stop pretending AI is intelligent

• stephen01king@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Humans are absolutely more special than organic thinking machines. I’ll go a step further and say all living creatures are more special than that.

  Show your proof, then. I’ve already said what I need to say about this topic.

  If humans are simply thought processes or our productive output then once you have a machine capable of thinking similarly (btw chatbots aren’t that and likely never will be) then you can feel free to dispose of humanity.

  We have no idea how humans think, yet you’re so confident that LLMs don’t and never will be similar? Are you the Techbro now, because you’re speaking so confidently on something that I don’t think can be proven at this moment. I typically associate that with Techbros trying to sell their products. Also, why are you talking about disposing humanity? Your insecurity level is really concerning.

  Understanding how the human brain works is a wonderful thing that will let us unlock better treatment for mental health issues. Being able to understand them fully means we should also be able to replicate them to a certain extent. None of this involves disposing humans.

  It’s a nice precursor to damning humanity to die so that you can have your robot army take over the world.

  This is just more of you projecting your insecurity onto me and accusing me of doing things you fear. All I’ve said was that humans thoughts are also probabilistic based on the little we know of them. The fact that your mind wander so far off into thoughts about me justifying a robot army takeover of the world is just you letting your fear run wild into the realm of conspiracy theory. Take a deep breathe and maybe take your own advice and go touch some grass.

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  • aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    All I’ve said was that humans thoughts are also probabilistic based on the little we know of them.

    Much of the universe can be modeled as probabilities in action. So what? I can model a lot of things as different things. We don’t really understand how light particles behave because we don’t have a good model for them. Scientists are still doing what scientists do: being skeptical and making and testing hypotheses. It was difficult to prove definitively that smoking causes cancer yet you’re willing to hop to “human thought is just an advanced chatbot” on scant evidence.

    This is just more of you projecting your insecurity onto me and accusing me of doing things you fear.

    No, it’s again a case of you buying the bullshit arguments of tech bros. Even if we had a machine capable of replicating human thought, humans are more than walking brain stems.

    You want proof of that? Take a look at yourself. Are you a floating brain stem or being with limbs?

    At even the most reductive and tech bro-ish, healthy humans are self-fueling, self-healing, autonomous, communicating, feeling, seeing, laughing, dancing, creative organic robots with GI built-in.

    Even if a person one day creates a robot with all or most of these capabilities and worthy of considering having rights, we still won’t be the organic version of that robot. We’ll still be human.

    I think you’re beyond having to touch grass. You need to take a fucking humanities course.

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    • stephen01king@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      you’re willing to hop to “human thought is just an advanced chatbot” on scant evidence.

      Not what I said, my point is that humans are organic probabilistic thinking machine and LLMs are just an imitation of that. And your assertion that an LLM is never ever gonna be similar to how the brain works is based on what evidence, again?

      You want proof of that? Take a look at yourself. Are you a floating brain stem or being with limbs?

      At even the most reductive and tech bro-ish, healthy humans are self-fueling, self-healing, autonomous, communicating, feeling, seeing, laughing, dancing, creative organic robots with GI built-in.

      Even if a person one day creates a robot with all or most of these capabilities and worthy of considering having rights, we still won’t be the organic version of that robot. We’ll still be human.

      What the hell are you even rambling about? Its like you completely ignored my previous comment, since you’re still going on about robots.

      Bro, don’t hallucinate an argument I never made, please. I’m only discussing about how the human mind works, yet here you are arguing about human limbs and what it means to be human?

      I’m not interested in arguing against someone who’s more interested with inventing ghosts to argue with instead of looking at what I actually said.

      And again, go take your own advice and maybe go to therapy or something.

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      • aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Bye!

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