I am not sure what your contention, or gotcha, is with the comment above but they are quite correct. And additionally chose quite an apt example with video compression since in most ways current ‘AI’ effectively functions as a compression algorithm, just for our language corpora instead of video.
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Enkimaru@lemmy.world 20 hours agoYou are obviously not educated on this.
It did not “learn” anymore than a downloaded video ran through a compression algorithm. Just: LoLz.
hoppolito@mander.xyz 20 hours ago
nednobbins@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
They seem pretty different to me.
Video compression developers go through a lot of effort to make them deterministic. We don’t necessarily care that a particular video stream compresses to a particular bit sequence but we very much care that the resulting decompression gets you as close to the original as possible.
AIs will rarely produce exact replicas of anything. They synthesize outputs from heterogeneous training data. That sounds like learning to me.
The one area where there’s some similarity is dimensionality reduction. Its technically a form of compression, since it makes your files smaller. It would also be an extremely expensive way to get extremely bad compression. It would take orders of magnitude more hardware resources and the images are likely to be unrecognizable.
gaja@lemm.ee 10 hours ago
Google search results aren’t deterministic but I wouldn’t say it “learns” like a person. Algorithms with pattern detection isn’t the same as human learning.
nednobbins@lemmy.zip 10 hours ago
You may be correct but we don’t really know how humans learn.
There’s a ton of research on it and a lot of theories but no clear answers.
There’s general agreement that the brain is a bunch of neurons; there are no convincing ideas on how consciousness arises from that mass of neurons.
The brain also has a bunch of chemicals that affect neural processing; there are no convincing ideas on how that gets you consciousness either.We modeled perceptrons after neurons and we’ve been working to make them more like neurons. They don’t have any obvious capabilities that perceptrons don’t have.
That’s the big problem with any claim that “AI doesn’t do X like a person”; since we don’t know how people do it we can neither verify nor refute that claim.
There’s more to AI than just being non-deterministic. Anything that’s too deterministic definitely isn’t an intelligence though; natural or artificial. Video compression algorithms are definitely very far removed from AI.
gaja@lemm.ee 10 hours ago
I’ve hand calculated forward propagation (neural networks). AI does not learn, its statically optimized. AI “learning” is curve fitting. Human learning requires understanding, which AI is not capable of.