To add to this, there’s evidence disproving that Apple and Google are listening 24/7. An article goes over how a phone uses way more power when doing an "OK Google/Hey Siri” request than simply scrolling through Meta/Twitter/Snapchat/etc. Basically it’d take a shit ton of noticeable battery power to constantly be listening to people and phoning home, so they don’t. What they did do instead was take secret screenshots and send them to 3rd party sources.