Comment on Government to ban Palestine Action, home secretary confirms

• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m pretty surprised so many people are ok with UK defensive capabilities being sabotaged.

  Being against Israel’s war crimes is one thing (and obviously IMO the correct response), but breaking into an RAF base and destroying the engines of multiple planes obviously isn’t something that should be tolerated or encouraged.

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  • lath@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s a difference between being ok with acts of sabotage and expressing schadenfreude when witnessing such a high level of obliviousness.

    I mean, it’s painfully obvious to most people that acts of sabotage ought to be expected in our current times and have been happing for some years now even. Yet to be so unprepared for this kind of thing that any random person can just waltz into your military base and have a field day with your aircrafts, it deserves to be shamed. It’s humiliating and rightfully so.

    Everyone expected better and if this is the status in every EU country currently at risk, then making fun of this kind of pure stupidity is very much warranted. Otherwise, we’re truly and absolutely fucked in case of an actual conflict.

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You experience satisfaction seeing our defence sector being sabotaged? Particularly when we’re in a proxy war with Russia and the world in general is becoming more hostile?

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      • lath@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I enjoy watching them put on a play of The Emperor’s New Clothes. If that’s what they wish to show off, why not applaud?

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  • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Taking targeted action at those who perpetrated the sabotage would be my preference, rather than blanket bans on a protestors. This is the wrong way to solve the problem.

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Agreed. But this isn’t a blanket ban on protestors.

      This specific organisation operates in cells, has caused and advocates for violence.

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      • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ok… …a blanket ban on a set of protestors.

        What’s the legal criteria to say somebody is a member of an organisation like this? Do they have to have a membership card to be banned from protests? It’s poorly defined and easily becomes anybody who turns up at a pro-palestinian protest. At that point you have banned protests on the subject.

        Hold individuals accountable for their actions. Don’t police people’s views or their desire to express them.

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• cook_pass_babtridge@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It was sabotage, but to call it terrorism implies they were endangering human life. If they wanted to do that, they could have sabotaged the engines in a way that wasn’t obvious, and would cause failures when the plane took off. This was clearly meant to be visible to everyone, they even filmed it. It’ll cost money to fix, but it never endangered human life.

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  • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So you don’t count IRA bombings as terrorism because they often phoned in warnings to evacuate the area?

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    • cook_pass_babtridge@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Those are bombings in a public area, and some people did die.

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