Attacking civilians doesn’t automatically make it a genocide. If that were true, then pretty much every war ever was a genocide.
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SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 day agoSo it’s ok for you to give “critical support” to an authoritarian regime, but super bad for someone to give “critical support” to Israel for fighting against an authoritarian whose proxies massacred villages? Why isn’t Iranian proxies massacring villages, Iran itself firing missiles at civilian populations (including a hosptial) something you don’t consider to be genocide?
How do you determine which genocide you support and which genocide you’re against?
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
So why is the Israel-Hamas war considered a genocide? Is it a numbers thing? Most other wars throughout history had many more civilian casualties than there’s been in the Israel-Hamas war.
What makes the Israel-Hamas war a genocide and for example, the Vietnam war not be considered a genocide?
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
Because of the genocidal rhetoric war aims behavior and aesthetics.
hraegsvelmir@ani.social 1 day ago
What makes the Israel-Hamas war a genocide and for example, the Vietnam war not be considered a genocide?
Because Vietnam was a war of ideologies, not a land grab intended to wipe out the current occupants so they could be entirely replaced by a “superior, chosen” people not of the ethnicity of the current residents.
This is such a mindblowingly stupid attempt at a gotcha question. Ffs, you literally had over a million Vietnamese fighting on the same side as the US in the ARVN during the course of the war. The belligerent parties in a conflict both being composed of largely the same peoples fighting each other tends to preclude it being described as a genocide.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Not menitioning the events of October 7 and the fact that Hamas is still holding Israelis hostage is a rather glaring omission there.
Iran has stated many times their goal to wipe Israel off the map. Is that not them saying they only want their “chosen people” living in the area? So under your definition of genocide, Iran is committing a genocide. If the fact that Israel was attacked on October 7 is irrelevant, then the fact that Israel attacked Iran in this iteration of hostilities between them is also irrelevant. Iran has the officially stated goal of wiping Israel off the map, Iran has killed Israeli civilians, therefore Iran has committed genocide (according your definition of it).
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
No, I don’t give critical support to Israel because they are a settler colonial project who, along with the US and other Western powers, started all of the troubles in the Middle East in the first place.
No critical support for imperialists.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
It can’t hear you. It’s being paid to not.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
It?
Who’s paying you to dehumanize people?
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
Sam Altman and Peter thiel. You?
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 18 hours ago
started all of the troubles in the Middle East in the first place.
Wow… just wow. You really need to read a history book if you think there was never any troubles in the Middle East before modern Israel existed.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
No, it’s true.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
Oh, so authoritarian regimes whose proxies massacre villages are bad now?
Fuck you. Stop talking shit about my country.