Comment on As disinformation and hate thrive online, YouTube quietly changed how it moderates content
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 2 days agoThis is revisionism of the highest degree. Everyone knows Google et al were very heavy handed at dealing with any dissent with the liberal agenda, for the lack of a better term. Facebook fired Luckey Palmer because he supported Trump! That’s how far the tech industry went to protect left wing views and for the best part of the last decade.
And no one is being allowed to say any of those words on any major social media. Hell my comment up there that says faggot would have gotten me suspended in all the major social media. So stay grounded and stop making shit up.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 days ago
More and more often I see mainstream social media platforms letting people say slurs. A few days ago I literally say the F-slur on YouTube, while you cannot say “porn”.
Old internet weren’t 4chans, kiwifarms-style doxxing forums! Just because some YouTube pseudohistorian said the old internet literally were composed of unmoderated image boards and forums, that doesn’t make that true.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
No they weren’t but they sure as fuck weren’t banning people for slurs either except the few really socially unacceptable ones. It was a good balance.
Also who’s the YouTube historian you cite? Because I was there too and I know exactly how it was. Lemmy has the right a,punt of moderation imo most of it enforced by users themselves as it should be.
Fuck your paternalistic bullshit.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 days ago
lemmy.world/post/31470537
Well, well, well, it seems like “letting people decide what’s okay and what is not” favors hatespeech every time…
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
This “study” is biased by design. But also even if it weren’t , one study does not prove anything. You’d need a lot more evidence than that.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That’s like bottom of the barrel kind of moderation. Even Kiwifarms has that much of a moderation even if they let people doxx others, but only if they’re the wrong kind of people.
Here’s the problem with the whole “free speech absolutism” experience: People don’t want to be told that they’re wrong, not just when Trump supporters are doing that. You know why Trump is popular? Because people want to be told they’re not racist if they have double standards towards “less trustworthy races”. Because people want to be told it’s okay if they drive their big trucks even to the toilet. Because people want to be told that their home remedies are much better, than vaccines. And people will go as far with this that they’ll go after people who don’t, often by doxxing or sending threats.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Oh for fucks sake, you keep using the same trite examples of shithole websites instead of looking at the place you’re at. I already told you, lemmy has a pretty good balance and this is where it should be as far as I’m concerned.
I don’t know what people want to be told, but I can tell you the double standards very much apply to both sides of the aisle. Like this very conversation is proof of that because the modern day American “leftist”simply defines itself in opposition to MAGA.
But even then I don’t even know why you bring that up because I’m not making an argument in favor of a side. You seem to imply that I do simply because the view I’m advocating for is often shared by the right, and because so much of the left is defined by being in opposition to MAGA then I must be defending MAGA or Trump; I guess the logic is that surely someone who disagrees with them will take every opposing viewpoint at any moment.
The fact is that heavy centralized moderation simply lends itself so that corporations can enforce whatever are the views of the current government. Which is fine they are in their right to do so, it is a private network after all. But I’m not gonna defend it no matter if it’s left leaning or right leaning because it just doesn’t seat right with me being dictated by a corporation what is correct enough for me to hear and see, and I will always move to the platform that has the least amount of paternalistic attitudes towards its users. Thats it, that’s the bottom line.
If you prefer heavy moderation and an enforced point of view of the world then that’s fine, there are plenty of social media networks with that approach. Just look at hexbear or r/conservative. No one is taking away your right to be dictated to.