I mean yeah if you can cause a specific selective pressure for the fluorescence trait and then breed the plant for 100 million years I guess you have a shot haha
You can shave off most of that 100 million years using variation breeding. No need to wait around for random chance to happen when a little radiation can trigger as many mutations as we want.
It’s still random chance. But you are of course right that you would get them faster than possible in what’s typically considered natural.
No one really does this anymore though. Of course you can’t select the radiation induced mutation or where or how many or how large or what you want it to do. Most give nothing useful whatsoever if they aren’t just outright killed by the mutation.
You just would have to do literally billions of them and see if you can observe any type of desirable phenotype because there’s no realistic way to do sequencing on that many.
Many traits are not regulated by single genes but on long pathways involving multi gene networks. These are complex and make it even more unlikely to obtain in any reasonable amount of time adding another layer of complexity
If you want a plant to glow and all you’re doing hypothetically is irradiating them I think it would take much longer than you may initially expect.
knightly@pawb.social 3 days ago
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Doxatek@mander.xyz 3 days ago
I mean yeah if you can cause a specific selective pressure for the fluorescence trait and then breed the plant for 100 million years I guess you have a shot haha
knightly@pawb.social 3 days ago
You can shave off most of that 100 million years using variation breeding. No need to wait around for random chance to happen when a little radiation can trigger as many mutations as we want.
Doxatek@mander.xyz 3 days ago
It’s still random chance. But you are of course right that you would get them faster than possible in what’s typically considered natural.
No one really does this anymore though. Of course you can’t select the radiation induced mutation or where or how many or how large or what you want it to do. Most give nothing useful whatsoever if they aren’t just outright killed by the mutation.
You just would have to do literally billions of them and see if you can observe any type of desirable phenotype because there’s no realistic way to do sequencing on that many.
Many traits are not regulated by single genes but on long pathways involving multi gene networks. These are complex and make it even more unlikely to obtain in any reasonable amount of time adding another layer of complexity
If you want a plant to glow and all you’re doing hypothetically is irradiating them I think it would take much longer than you may initially expect.