I don’t usually hear this opinion.
Most of the time, it’s about how XMPP has everything you need without the boat of a Matrix server.
Comment on XMPP vs everything else
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
Granted, it has been a couple years and it could be a bit better, but XMPP is a horrible, horrible protocol to work with. From the ground up.
Matrix might be bloated nowadays, but that’s nothing to the horribleness of xmpp.
source: I wrote the first xmpp/matrix bridge in 2015
underline960@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
Eh, only if you squint reaaaaally hard
In practice, you will run in constant compatibility problems. Let alone barely functional multi device support
mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Conversely, I have seen this opinion expressed a few times. I can’t judge the accuracy but there seem to be more than a few people sharing it.
tisktisk@piefed.social 1 week ago
With the most expertise in this thread, may I ask your take on matrix vs irc horribleness?
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
I never really did very much with IRC on a protocol level. I just know that it’s ultra simple, and suffers similar problems as xmpp: it’s not really meant for multidevices with a shared backlog.
I’m sure there are projects to enhance IRC with proper e2e encryption and chat sync, but you really want something that has modern usage in mind from the ground up. IRC and xmpp are just very 90s.
note: it’s now been a couple years since I last took a deeper dive into xmpp and matrix, so things might have changed. But especially for xmpp, I can’t really see how without breaking compatibility. The protocol is just very… special in its own way