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Easy enough to enforce. Put all your IoT devices into their own subnet/VLAN with no Internet access. Then, you’ll quickly see which devices you need to replace, or just not use as “smart” devices.

I have a ton of smart devices that don’t even connect to wifi at all. None of them have Internet access of any sort.

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WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Easy enough! except, that most pepeople don’t even know what is a VLAN, let alone have any network device that supports it. It takes a special kind of router to have such settings, and no, OpenWRT is not the solution for that as they have limitations on the minimum amount of memory the device has to have

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- lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  It takes a special kind of router to have such settings
  
  Eh, most good quality routers from reputable companies can handle separate VLANs just fine. My old Asus RT-N66U had that capability right out of the box. I use Unifi now, which obviously has that as well, but I’d be surprised to
  
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  - WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    Eh, most good quality routers from reputable companies can handle separate VLANs just fine. My old Asus RT-N66U had that capability right out of the box.
    
    I haven’t seen “advanced” settings like this on consumer tplink and asus routers, only on business grade tplinks, when considering these brands. but I also wouldn’t consider those that I often see to be good quality, so there’s that.
    
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    lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yeah, hence the qualifications haha
    
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- HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  So it’s a skill issue, then? Got it.
  
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  - WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    it is first and foremost a
    
    Hardware issue.
    
    but also who the fuck wants to have a power hungry PC as the router. old PC, so we can probably count with 80 W at the least
    
    but also, how the fuck would a PC help with the skill issue?
    
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    HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It means you don’t know how to make it work. Last I checked, a used N100 all in one PC with dual Ethernet is cheaper than even most brand new consumer routers, and also sips watts.
    
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    HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Here, let me help.
    
    ebay.us/m/3res0I
    
    Less than 20 USD.
    
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  - lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You need to readjust your point of view, friend. It’s not a skill issue. It’s a “most people don’t have the kind of experience necessary to even begin to understand what goes on inside the magic internet box” issue. You’re speaking at a completely different level than most people understand.
    
    The average Joe doesn’t possess that capability in the slightest. It’s just Bob from Finance. The only time they interact with a computer in any meaningful capacity is at work, where IT fixes their problems.
    
    The average Joe is someone who declares “the wifi is broken” when they forget the password to their online banking portal.
    
    The average Joe will take their kid’s stick-drifting Nintendo Switch to the Geek Squad at Best Buy and get upsold a Switch 2 instead of listening to their kid and getting it fixed at the local repair shop next door for $50.
    
    Do you see where I’m going with this?
    
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Hardware issue.