Comment on Rumour: Google intends to discontinue the Android Open Source Project – OSnews
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 days ago
Of course they are. They always did. The entire ecosystem is so closely tied to google services that it’s almost impossible to use the phone without them (if you want to use banking and security apps). For now the only alternative is iOS and I’m starting to doubt if mobile Linux will ever become usable.
Rancor_Tangerine@lemmy.world 1 day ago
iOS isn’t any better. I’m looking to OnePlus and maybe LineageOS. Hopefully GrapheneOS isn’t dead.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 day ago
I think iOS is better than stock Android because Apple is not in ad business so it has better privacy protections. It’s locked ecosystem sucks but privacy wise it’s better.
I went with GrapheneOS because it’s fairly large user base means that it will last longer than other, less used mods. But in the end it will only survive for as long as Google let’s it.
Rancor_Tangerine@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s not. iOS has just been awful for a long time and since it hasn’t been downgraded in recent memory and some people take that as a positive thing.
iOS does not have better privacy protections. Privacy is more than putting the word Privacy in an ad. French Regulators fined Apple millions for illegal data collection AND they’re still being sued by multiple orgs. In fact, you have no choice to opt out of the collection, only to opt out of it being used for personalization. Android has more granular controls over every permission. Until they really pull the plug GrapheneOS and others still count on Androids side as well.
Apple was cool before the iMac in '98. After that they’ve been drumming their products down. There is genuinely no advantage. “It just works” except it works less than my windows machine. “It’s more Unix like” Windows has WSL now. “Muh Enclave Chip” TPM is better. Both collect your data.
Anyone who prefers or likes Apple products does it because of vibes and appearance rather than anything with technical.
I do want to add, Android beating iOS in privacy isn’t a high mark. It doesn’t mean Android is good with privacy.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 day ago
Electronic Frontier Foundation doesn’t agree with you: eff.org/…/apples-apptrackingtransparency-upending…
“Looking ahead, the mobile operating system market is essentially a duopoly, and Google controls the larger part of the -opoly. While Apple pushes through new privacy measures like ATT, Google has left its own Ad ID alone. Of the two, Apple is undoubtedly doing more to rein in the privacy abuses of advertising technology. Nearly every criticism that can be made about the state of privacy on iOS goes double for Android. Your move, Google.”
I trust EFF more then I trust you, sorry.
Feitan@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Lineage os and graphene os are both based on AOSP, no ? How to expect these projects to survive if AOSP becomes closed source ?
What worries me the most is the support for our phone. Constructor provides bad to average support for new android versions. Meanwhile, these projects can last for a long time. I have a one plus 7 pro and it is running on YAAP, receives OTA security updates every month and all the major versions of Android. Killing AOSP will lead to killing long term support of our phone.
Rancor_Tangerine@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Hope and fairy farts mostly. I’m assuming they’ll branch out from what they have now if Android chooses to do that. Ala MariaDB.
HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Where, exactly, do you think the source code will go for aosp? It’ll just get forked. See ZFS and openzfs, or Solaris, and illumos.
Feitan@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You are right that it will continue, I was too dramatic. However the big advantage of AOSP is to have a solid common base.