Riiiiighttttttttttttt to some degree… I have not listened to early Burzum in a long time, but it is the case, as far as I remember, that Varg’s early work never explicitly advocates Nazism. Even in his later, post-jail work, after he had become transparent about his views, he isn’t focusing on espousing specifically any racial theory in his music…
For instance, “Belus” was originally going to be called ‘The White God’ because that is how one of these ancient deities was literally referred to by the worshipers, but this was not actually racial in nature… It was how a bunch of pagans who didn’t know much of anything about different races referred to their god, and there was no motive, and he wanted to avoid confusion over this so he renamed the album to Belus…
Of course, Varg is anti-Semitic and a racist, and he has written extensively about this sort of thing… Yet, I would emphasize that the music itself does not tend to convey that…
But yeah, it is what it is.
I think… NSBM is more explicitly Nazi, though, so like… I hesitate to say Varg’s work is conventionally NSBM.
But I also do not want to look like a Nazi apologist or some anal retentive guy policing what people call NSBM. For all intents and purposes, I think it is safe to call Varg a Nazi musician and say that his earliest work can also be regarded as that, but since it is so seminal in black metal music and is not explicitly lyrically Nazi, I think it’s excusable for people to listen to this stuff - particularly considering you are probably downloading it and he isn’t making a dime.
i actually have little clue about (this part of) the metal genre or Varg’s influence on that. and i don’t think being a bad person should prevent people from listening to your music (too many composers are full of shit), i just wanted to have it mentioned, since i think Varg’s ideology is an important driving force in his creation and people should know when they come across his works.
that being said i sense a relation between his racism and his creative work when he abolishes “rock” music for his pagan style medieval music (because the latter was not tainted by n******) latet in his career
Okhay… Um… Originally I asked because I thought, cool, I kinda like lofi, maybe this is something I should check out but with nazism on the table maybe I should forget about it
frankenswine@lemmy.world 1 month ago
aka the foundation of NSBM (nazi metal)
Lovstuhagen@hilariouschaos.com 1 month ago
Riiiiighttttttttttttt to some degree… I have not listened to early Burzum in a long time, but it is the case, as far as I remember, that Varg’s early work never explicitly advocates Nazism. Even in his later, post-jail work, after he had become transparent about his views, he isn’t focusing on espousing specifically any racial theory in his music…
For instance, “Belus” was originally going to be called ‘The White God’ because that is how one of these ancient deities was literally referred to by the worshipers, but this was not actually racial in nature… It was how a bunch of pagans who didn’t know much of anything about different races referred to their god, and there was no motive, and he wanted to avoid confusion over this so he renamed the album to Belus…
Of course, Varg is anti-Semitic and a racist, and he has written extensively about this sort of thing… Yet, I would emphasize that the music itself does not tend to convey that…
But yeah, it is what it is.
I think… NSBM is more explicitly Nazi, though, so like… I hesitate to say Varg’s work is conventionally NSBM.
But I also do not want to look like a Nazi apologist or some anal retentive guy policing what people call NSBM. For all intents and purposes, I think it is safe to call Varg a Nazi musician and say that his earliest work can also be regarded as that, but since it is so seminal in black metal music and is not explicitly lyrically Nazi, I think it’s excusable for people to listen to this stuff - particularly considering you are probably downloading it and he isn’t making a dime.
frankenswine@lemmy.world 1 month ago
i actually have little clue about (this part of) the metal genre or Varg’s influence on that. and i don’t think being a bad person should prevent people from listening to your music (too many composers are full of shit), i just wanted to have it mentioned, since i think Varg’s ideology is an important driving force in his creation and people should know when they come across his works.
that being said i sense a relation between his racism and his creative work when he abolishes “rock” music for his pagan style medieval music (because the latter was not tainted by n******) latet in his career
Mothra@mander.xyz 1 month ago
Okhay… Um… Originally I asked because I thought, cool, I kinda like lofi, maybe this is something I should check out but with nazism on the table maybe I should forget about it