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Iceblade02@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Redex68@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This isn’t really on topic but since you mentioned it, the only way for Europe to stay relevant is if we integrate more.

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  • Iceblade02@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That depends on what you mean by integrate. There are many clear examples where it makes no sense to enforce homogenous legislation. Europe is a big place, and it makes sense to have different systems in different places.

    Take tires for instance - in the Scandinavian countries we require winter tires for the season, something which would make no sense in Italy for instance.

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    • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That depends on what you mean by integrate. There are many clear examples where it makes no sense to enforce homogenous legislation. Europe is a big place, and it makes sense to have different systems in different places.

      No, there are no place where it make no sense. Granted that you need to write a more complex law, but in the end it is nothing impossible.

      Take tires for instance - in the Scandinavian countries we require winter tires for the season, something which would make no sense in Italy for instance.

      Just for the record, even in Italy the winter tires are required for the season (but we can just have chains on board and we are good).

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      • Iceblade02@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just for the record, even in Italy the winter tires are required for the season (but we can just have chains on board and we are good).

        Double checking and it doesn’t seem like it? Then again I don’t live in Italy. Here in Sweden you’ll face a fine of ~2000kr (roughly 200€) per tire on your vehicle that is out of spec.

        europe-consommateurs.eu/…/winter-tyres-in-europe.…

        Granted that you need to write a more complex law, but in the end it is nothing impossible.

        …and thus it is much simpler to handle these kinds of regulations at a lower level. No need for everyone everywhere to agree, people can have rules that work for them where they live, folks are happier and don’t have to struggle against a system run by bureaucrats so far away they have no idea what reality on the ground is (and they can’t, it’s impossible to account for every scenario centrally). Even on a municipal level certain regulations differ, and that’s completely ok!

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• jaxxed@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You should read their policy

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  • Iceblade02@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I have.

    It includes “compliance with EU regulations” which in this case is soon going to involve redirecting and tracking visitors to sites such as thepiratebay.

    Fully expect this to be a move to enable them to enforce this via blocking DNS providers that don’t comply with censorship lists, instead directing people to use this.

    I don’t need an EU DNS, I already have OpenDNS.

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    • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It includes “compliance with EU regulations” which in this case is soon going to involve redirecting and tracking visitors to sites such as thepiratebay.

      Which are already required, in a form or another, for every EU member, so ?

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      • Ice@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        so ?

        To make it extra clear. I don’t want to be subjected to these kinds of regulations. They are an infringement upon my personal freedoms and my privacy.

        I don’t want these regulations to exist. If they exist, I’d prefer they be unenforceable. If they try to enforce them, I’ll try to circumvent them.

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        The internet wants to be free.

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  • themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That guy thinks that the EU is one entity, not consisting of many member states.

    Also it sounds like he only read headlines. Otherwise he would know that the EU survelliance bill is a proposal, which any member state can make in a democracy.

    Guess the propaganda got to him if he belives more what he reads in a headline instead of what actions the EU actually makes.

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    • Iceblade02@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The EU is one entity, consisting of several member states. Just like my own country consists of many regions and municipalities with their own elected officials.

      Member states are forced to comply with legislation passed by the EU, even if a majority of the citizens of a state do not want to implement it. Technically there are two other options - sufferimg massive fines and punitive actions by the EU, or leaving. I’d rather not have to endure either of those, so instead I complain, loudly, online, to politicians, MPs and MEPs.

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      • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Member states are forced to comply with legislation passed by the EU, even if a majority of the citizens of a state do not want to implement it. Technically there are two other options - sufferimg massive fines and punitive actions by the EU, or leaving. I’d rather not have to endure either of those, so instead I complain, loudly, online, to politicians, MPs and MEPs.

        Member states are forced to comply with legislation passed by the EU writing their own laws. An EU directive has no effect in Italy unless a law that acknowledges it is enacted. True, we must write a law that implement the directive but it is not an automatism.

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      • themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, sure. Go complain about your life in the EU. Must be awful.

        Maybe go outside and enjoy your privileged life in Europe.

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