Comment on Cloudflare built an oauth provider with Claude
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 3 days ago
This seems like a perfectly reasonable experiment and not something they’re going to release without extensive human and security review.
Oauth libraries aren’t new and A.I. can probably generate adequate code. My main problem with A.I. for this purpose is that senior developers/experts don’t pop out of thin air. You need junior developers now if you want any real experts in the future. Maybe you need fewer and more specialized training. Maybe the goal is to offload the training cost to Universities and tech companies only want PhDs. Maybe someday LLMs will be good enough to not need much supervision. But that’s not where we are.
We probably need a Level x capability scale like self-driving cars for this sort of thing.
Doctors face a similar obstacle before they can practice: medical school and residency. They literally have to jump from zero to hero before the first real paycheck.
Things may evolve this way for senior software developers with a high rate of dropout.
I hear you, and there’s merit to the concerns. My counter is
The same was true at the Advent of books, the Internet, and stack overflow It’s Luddite to refuse progress and tools based on an argument about long term societal impact. The reality is that capitalism will choose the path of least resistance
I don’t know anything about you, obviously, but I suspect you should to take a more nuanced, historical view of Luddites. Writing someone off as a “Luddite” probably isn’t the burn you think it is.
I’m all for technological progress. Who isn’t? It’s the politics and ownership that causes issues.
I apologize back. I didn’t mean to offend. You never know who you’re talking to on a message board and in rereading it, my comment could easily have been taken as hostile. It’s hard to get nuance across in this medium.
bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 3 days ago
If you read the commentary on the process you notice heavy reliance on experts in the field to ensure the code is good and secure. Claude is great at pumping out code, but it can really get confused and forget/omit earlier work, for example.
I think the notion of junior developers disappearing because of AI is false. These tools accelerate productivity, they don’t replace human experience.
Ryick@lemm.ee 2 days ago
This is true, because AI is not the actual issue. The issue, like with most, is humanity; our perception and trust of AI. Regardless of logic, humanity still chooses illogical decisions.
anus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I think this take undervalues the AI. I think we self select for high quality code and high quality engineers
But many of us would absolutely gawk at something like Dieselgate. That is real code running in production on safety critical machinery.
I’m basically convinced that Claude would have done better
xthexder@l.sw0.com 2 days ago
Dieselgate wasn’t a “bug” it was an designed in feature to circumvent emissions. Claude absolutely would have done the same, since it’s exactly what the designers would have asked it for. Somehow I doubt it would have gone undetected as long if Claude wrote it tho, it’d probably mess it up some other way.
anus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You should look into how Dieselgate worked
I don’t think you understand my take
I guess that makes it a bad analogy