Comment on The endless battle to banish the world’s most notorious stalker website

• pqdinfo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If the government can’t do anything about it, why should we empower corporations too?

  Wait, what?

  Because in this specific case, and yes, you have to address it case by case, the government being able to do something about it would involve draconian anti-privacy international web monitoring of a level that’s literally described in 1984, while the corporation being involved merely involves the corporation cutting off a route knowing that it’ll be publicly debated afterwards and may, if the decision is a bad one, result in it losing business.

  But that’s moot. If you agree that access to communication and the internet is a basic human right, then somebody who is not been legally sequestered, should have access to their basic human right.

  No. There is no human right to organize the killing of people because you don’t like a harmless mental condition they were born with. There is, as a result, no absolute right to access the Internet.

  And contrary to this absolutist nonsense that’s been posted about how if an ISP bans even one packet under the most justifiable circumstances imaginable, it means Marsha Blackburn is going to go back in time and propose her laws that she’s already proposed to ban LGBT information from the Internet, ISPs have never provided this kind of absolute right in the first place. ISPs can and do block, and sometimes kick, for any of the following:

  1. Attempting to send email via SMTP except via their own service.
  2. Running a "server"
  3. BitTorrent
  4. (Including this to give you some idea of how this isn’t a new thing) Abusive use of Usenet including spam, trolling, posting pornography into the wrong groups, etc.
  5. Spam

  We tolerate this because… well, we tolerate the anti-spam part and we tolerated the anti-abuse of Usenet parts because we accept that people use the Internet abusively and an ISP, at whatever level, has a right to protect itself, its employees, and even society at large.

  But here you all are claiming that this is all OK, and remaining silent even on the stuff ISPs block that aren’t actually justifiable (what business is it of anyone if I run a webserver from my home or bypass an ISPs SMTP server?), but when it comes to blocking a website whose sole purpose is to organize actions that will result in the deaths of trans people, you all think ISPs should take no action.

  Spam? The worst thing ever.

  Killing trans people? Eh. Who cares.

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  • jet@hackertalks.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The answer to international conspiracies are hard is not mob justice.

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    • pqdinfo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      ISPs refusing to carry data is not “mob justice”.

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