Comment on Java at 30: How a language designed for a failed gadget became a global powerhouse

• masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Most overrated language imho. I actually enjoy Java more.

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• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You can annotate types in Python, and it’s actually pretty nice when used with Pyright/Pylance.

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  • kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh, I know you can, but it’s optional and the syntax is kind of weird. I prefer languages that are strongly typed from the ground up and enforce it.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Python is strongly typed, it’s just not statically typed. Python with consistent type hinting is extremely similar to a statically typed language like C#.

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      • kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I would argue that without consistent and enforced type hinting, dynamically typed languages offer very little benefit from type-checking at runtime. And with consistent, enforced type hinting, they might as well be considered actual statically typed languages.

        Don’t get me wrong, that’s a good thing. Properly configured Python development environments basically give you both, even if I’m not a fan of the syntax.

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But nobody else does, and I need it more on code I am consuming than producing. In fact, many functions rely on being able to send various types for different behavior. Dynamic programming is crazy to me. It’s like guessing. I don’t know what type your code is accepting and I have to guess based on the name of read your code directly.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have the opposite experience, a ton of libraries I use provide optional types, and the handful that don’t often have a good reason for it (e.g. numpy). Our projects at work have types almost everywhere, and it’s pretty nice to work with.

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• TerHu@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  use bython, python with braces XD

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  • kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hasn’t been updated since 2018. Does it still work?

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    • TerHu@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      i honestly don’t know. i’ve read about it here and there but never actually tried it

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• Enkimaru@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Try ‘Nim’. It is Pythonic language with static typing.

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• rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hated something about Python, and avoided it, until encountering Tcl which for me fulfills the same role that Pythons seems for many people, but Tcl is really much more pleasant. IMHO.

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• LedgeDrop@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Preach it! 🙌⛪

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