Comment on Opinions wanted: defederating with bot spam instances

sunaurus@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• cerevant@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Perhaps it would be useful to look at the subscriber numbers for these communities? Maybe contact some of those subscribers directly, since they are the ones who requested the content in the first place? I would venture that people interested in a non-interactive firehose of links is probably a lurker and wouldn’t respond here.

  If a lot of these communities have one subscriber, It could be that someone subscribed just to get the community on All.

  I’m generally of the view that defederation to curate content is a bad idea. I’ve seen suggestions to have the ability for an instance to exclude certain communities from All, or maybe Lemmy needs a semi curated Popular feed like Reddit.

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  • cubedsteaks@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I know I accidentally subbed to some when I was looking for communities to add to my feed. I need to go through and remove them now that I know what they are.

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• TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Thanks for boosting the discussion, I’m curious to see if anyone enjoys these bots as well. Thanks for all your efforts 🙏

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• jordanlund@lemmy.one ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I would really appreciate if people who actually enjoy content from those instances could share their thoughts here!

  Well that’s the trick, isn’t it? They don’t engage with the bot posts, if they were enjoying them then wouldn’t they engage?

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  • megane_kun@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    One counterpoint is that these bots offer a way to “browse Reddit content” without giving Reddit anything. And if browsing posts is the only thing one is after, one could enjoy the content but not interact with it, not even an upvote nor a subscription (to the repost community).

    However, I don’t know of any way of measuring such interactions other than people telling us that they do.

    Personally speaking though, the best, or worst, or perhaps spiciest part of reddit posts are in the comments. Just the post, without the comments providing the meat of it to me is kinda empty.

    I’m fine either way since I rarely, if ever, encounter such Reddit reposts from bots. I’ve never subscribed to such, and I almost never encounter them in the wilds of “All.”

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• Kalcifer@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I would vote nay for defederating from them. While I personally found their content annoying, someone else may actually find it uesful. I blocked the users, and the problem was solved. This issue may arise again, however, if more spam users pop up on these instances than a single user could be expected to realistically deal with. This could possibly again be fixed by the user blocking the instance, but this would have to wait for user-blocking of instances to be implemented.

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  • HelloHotel@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Im generally on the side of reposting for archival and continuation. however, the transparency and half-assed ness and lack of transparency of these services make it a no deal. If I were to remake one (and ive thoght about it) a simple “upload and done” approach is awful

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    • Kalcifer@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Im generally on the side of reposting for archival and continuation.

      Unless an instance has been built with the intention of archiving information, I don’t think that it should be automatically expected that an instance would be in favor of archiving posts from other platforms – there already exists services that archive internet data, and they are better equipped to do so. An instance should outline in their rules whether or not they support such types of posts.

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      • HelloHotel@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I generally agree, ill add that to the post

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