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JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 5 weeks agoYour cloud example is exactly right and exactly what we want to NOT HAPPEN.
They shoved the cloud so much down our throats so that they can force you into monthly income-sucking unneeded subscriptions. That is it. That is the single reason everyone did it.
The result is now the average user has a much worse experience overall. One literally has to fight with Microsoft products to save things on their own computer. IoT and smart products literally won’t function without connections to their “cloud”. Phones come without SD card compatibility and with low flash memory to force you into cloud subscriptions. Now every damn piece of software is a way overpriced subscription that almost all originally started as “switching to cloud infrastructure” (fucking adobe creative cloud).
The “cloud” has had so many data breaches and people data have been stolen, siphoned off, lost due to bugs, and sold to earn even more cash on the side.
A huge portion of the general corporatization and bad enshittification of digital services and software in general can be attributed to “the cloud shoving down our throats” that you describe.
AI is looking to do the same thing except castrate peoples’ digital skills, critical thinking skills, transcription skills, and writing skills in order to siphon more and more of your income off in the form of AI subscriptions while they double dip and sell everything you ever say to it and triple dip in mining everything you say to it as R&D that you pay to do
Companies need to do the fucking R&D themselves with their revenue of a small country and stop forcing regular people to pay to be their alpha and beta testers and focus groups, and people gobble that boot up so hard because LLMs have a few small areas where they are slightly useful and can save 10 minutes per day, so people will literally sell their data, their already small income, and their soul to save 10 minutes.
irmadlad@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
We could say the very same things about all technology tho. I’m old enough to have lived a rather full life before the advent of the computer revolution. People in my age bracket lamented almost the same things you have pointed out in regards to computers, or really any new technology. Boomers, for some reason, seem to hate technology, even tho they use it on a minute by minute basis. Computers will rot your brain. Computers will do your thinking for you. Computers are going to take over the world. Yet, here we all sit in Lemmy Selfhosted, fully immersed in computer tech.
I hear what you are saying, and in some respects I can find commonality. However, I’m not on a mission from god, and have long since given up on trying to save the world from itself. I’m not saying it isn’t a worthy cause, it’s just that 8.2 billion people have 8.2 billion different ideas than I do.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
There’s a vast difference though. You’re acting like we’re Luddites or something, when there’s already a concrete example of the problems you’re promoting.
Yes, we have to tinker with AI to understand it. But your approach is to shove it into everything when we don’t fucking want it in fucking everything.
Ffs can you be any more dismissive and denigrating by comparing us to luddites?
And, I’m probably mot much younger than you, and I can call bullshit on your claims. Nothing from 4+ decades ago compares to the Cloud and AI concerns, by orders of magnitude.
irmadlad@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No, what I am saying tho is, give it a bit of time to sort itself out. If you don’t want an AI Rice Cooker, don’t get one. It’s the knee jerk reaction to AI that I’m talking about. Do I like corporations mining and stealing my data. No, and I take proper precautions to circumvent that. Do I think that there are better options than people storing every last bit of their data on corporate cloud farms. Of course, but I don’t hate on them. They do it because it’s convenient and they don’t understand that there are other options. A Dropbox or Gmail account takes about 5 minutes to spin up. Would I make recommendations if asked, as to what the better options are? Of course I would, I might even bring the topic up in certain situations, But again, I don’t hate you because you use corporate clouds, or piss around with face swap AI, or hate on you because you bought an AI Rice Cooker, no matter what I think of them. For instance, the Cybertruck. I think that is about the most useless vehicle I’ve ever seen. It looks like some kid’s welding shop project they did for a grade. But you do you.
Didn’t compare you to a Luddite at all, and I apologize if it seemed that way. However I was making the comparison of AI hate to what I experienced when computers first became a public commodity and the hate people were spewing about them. Hell, I remember a lecture about the ‘evils’ of the calculator when they became available to the public. This knee jerk reaction proliferates through out all new technology. On the corporate side, of course they promote these things because, well, a business is usually in the business to maximize it’s profit potential to it’s investors. Even if you run a non-profit, you still gotta make some paper, but I’m not on a mission against corporate technologies. If you ask me if it’s a good idea to have a Gmail account where Google reads your most private emails, I’d tell you no. I just don’t hate on it. If you have a Gmail account. Good for you. Have fun with it.
Yes, you probably are as I am soon to be 71.
non_burglar@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I want to believe you have given this some thought, but for someone with as long a sea log as yours, you seem to have forgotten what happened when we “gave it time to sort itself out” for other services that are now completely entrenched in our lives and have made them worse for it.
AI itself is fine, and its been used for good (solving protein folding).
But AI in just about everything else is awful. It wastes energy and water. It is actively making people dumber. I’m fighting a losing battle at work with fools who wholesale believe AI answers on any question and others who literally vibe code.
If you truly believe ai is going to be better in the long run, you have not been paying attention to the last 30 years of technology becoming trash.