Comment on Mozilla is shutting down Pocket, their read-it-later and content discovery app, and Fakespot, their browser extension that analyzes the authenticity of online product reviews.

• Transtronaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  In a world without dark design patterns, there would be a single pop-up when you first install the application, to ask if you want notifications and/or suggestions for new features. If you click “no”, it should never bother you again unless you go into a menu and opt in. Anything beyond that is inherently predatory.

  Ideally, that pop-up wouldn’t even exist. They could just have a collective “don’t bother me again” checkbox on every non-essential notification, so you can easily disable it the first time they become relevant. If your user has already indicated that they are not interested, any further pestering is essentially harassment.

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  • Alaknar@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    In a world without dark design patterns, there would be a single pop-up when you first install the application, to ask if you want notifications and/or suggestions for new features

    This is exactly how it works in things like Office or Edge.

    If you click “no”, it should never bother you again unless you go into a menu and opt in

    Yup. Or unless a new feature is introduced, in which case a new pop-up appears. That’s precisely how it works.

    Ideally, that pop-up wouldn’t even exist. They could just have a collective “don’t bother me again” checkbox on every non-essential notification

    Edge, most of the time, just opens a new tab with “Your Edge was updated” and a list of new things.

    If your user has already indicated that they are not interested, any further pestering is essentially harassment.

    If it was about the same feature that you already dismissed - yeah, I get the sentiment. If it’s about completely new things - it’s a really weird thing to say. How are users supposed to know that something new was introduced? Sift through thousands of lines of changelogs…?

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• ptu@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yes, Microsoft is especially bad in this regard. For this whole spring have I clicked hundeds of times that I’m aware that my trial is ending. They also introduced a new feature that they promote on a space that takes literally half the screen. And youtube premium, oh boy.

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  • Alaknar@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    For this whole spring have I clicked hundeds of times that I’m aware that my trial is ending

    This is… not quite related to the topic, no? Trial ending warning is not a “hey, here’s a new feature you might want to try out”.

    They also introduced a new feature that they promote on a space that takes literally half the screen

    Could you elaborate? I used to use Edge as my daily driver, now it’s my secondary browser. I have no clue what you mean here.

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    • ptu@lemm.ee ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not speaking of edge here, but the Microsoft fabric/power platform. They tried to sell me some feature for months and eventually i missclicked and started the trial. Now they are notifying that the trial ends in x days and they’ve been extending it so it never ends

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