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• DeceasedPassenger@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Totally fair point but I really don’t know if that’s true. A decent number of mainstream delusions have the side effect of creating community and bringing people together, other negative aspects notwithstanding. The delusions referenced in the article are more akin to acute psychosis, as the individual becomes isolated, nobody to share delusions with but the chatbot.

  With traditional mainstream delusions, there also exists a relatively clear path out, with corresponding communities. ExJW, ExChristian, etc. People are able to help others escape that particular in-group when they’re familiar with how it works. But how do you deprogram someone when they’ve been programmed with gibberish? It’s like reverse engineering a black box. This is scaring me as I write it.

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  • drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    You mean the guys who put kids in suicide bombs don’t have acute psychosis?

    What about almost of the rvaibg Christian hermits that sit in their basements and harass people online?

    Its full on lovecraftian level psychosis. In the US they sell out stadiums and pretend to heal people by touch lmao

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  • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This isn’t a new thing, people have gone off alone into this kind of nonsensical journey for a while now

    The time cube guy comes to mind

    There’s also temple OS written in holy C, he was close to some of the stuff in the article

    And these are just two people functional and loud enough to be heard. This is a thing that happens, maybe LLMs exacerbate a pre existing condition, but people have been going off the deep end like this long before LLMs came into the picture

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    • DeceasedPassenger@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Your point is not only valid but also significant, and I feel stands in addition, not contradiction, to my point. These people now have something to continuously bounce ideas off; a conversational partner that never says no. A perpetual yes-man. The models are heavily biased towards the positive simply by nature of what they are, predicting what comes next. You (may or may not) know how in improv acting there’s a saying called “yes, and” which serves to keep things always moving forward. These models exist in this state, in perpetuity.

      Previously, people who have ideas such as these will experience near-universal rejection from those around them (if they don’t have charisma in which case they start a cult) which results in a (relatively, imo) small number of extreme cases. I fear the presence of such a perpetual yes-man will only accelerate all kinds of damage that can emerge from nonsensical thinking.

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      • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        I agree, it’s certainly not going to help people losing touch. But that’s not what worries me - that’s a small slice of the population, and models are beginning to get better at rejection/assertion

        What I’m more worried about is the people who are using it almost codependently to make decisions. It’s always there, it’ll always give you advice. Usually it’s somewhat decent advice, even. And it’s a normal thing to talk through decisions with anyone

        The problem is people are offloading their thinking to AI. It’s always there, it’s always patient with you… You can literally have it make every life decision for you.

        It’s not emotional connection or malicious AI I worry about… You can now walk around with a magic eight ball that can guide you through life reasonably well, and people are starting to trust it above their own judgement

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