Yup fuck altmedia, felt sketchy the moment they popped up here
Comment on YSK: Mint Press News is Russian propaganda
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 weeks ago
Update: It looks to me at least pretty likely that !altmedia@altmedia.house is also Russian propaganda. Maybe they just wanted to post this thing, and are short of any of the critical thinking skills that would let them evaluate my argument that MPN is Russian when [I told them it was])(ponder.cat/post/2897697/3170510). Mostly they seem to be posting pro-Palestinian stuff from reliable sources. But, the sidebar is super sus to me.
Until January 2nd, 2025 the 'WorldNews` subreddit, with 40 million users automatically subscribed, had an ‘Israel at War’ livethread constantly at the top.
This community was founded to dissent from this forced perspective, and present the Palestinian and anti-establishment position in general.
Fine. I actually completely agree with this, I took a quick look at some of the pinned /r/worldnews threads about Israel’s wars and “wars” and they’re completely full of pro-Israel bullshit. My initial assumption is that the inherent corruptibility of the Reddit / Lemmy moderation model has rendered /r/worldnews subject to propaganda from Israel, but who knows. But yes it’s some bullshit.
reddit.com/…/rworldnews_live_thread_israel_at_war…
Anyway, reading further:
This community is ‘AltMedia’ in the Mearsheimer and Walt sense. Not the Richard Spencer sense.
Not sure why those are the only two options…
And then below that is where it goes off the rails.
This community likes
*John Mearsheimer
Good stuff if a little bit of an odd choice for the specific number 1.
- Edward Said
- Noam Chomsky
Great stuff
- Chris Hedges
Well that’s an odd choice. All I really know about the guy is some email list that gets sent to me that has his name on it which occasionally says some very bizarre stuff. For example “The internet, from its inception, was created to be a tool of mass surveillance. It was developed first as a counterinsurgency tool for the Vietnam War and the rest of the Global South, but like many devices of foreign policy naturally it made its way back to U.S. soil.”
There’s also this:
Hedges began hosting the television show On Contact for the Russian-government owned network RT America in June 2016. Hedges, who has claimed not to have known much about the network at the time, was approached to make a show by RT America president Mikhail “Misha” Solodovnikov, who promised him complete editorial independence.[44][57]
On Contact provided commentary on social issues, often profiling nonfiction authors and their recently published works, with Hedges aiming to follow the approach of former public television shows. On Contact was nominated for an Emmy in 2017, RT America’s first significant award nomination, but the award was won by Steve.[44]
On March 3, 2022, RT America ceased operations following the widespread deplatforming of Russian-sponsored media caused by the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.[44] The run of On Contact ended.
Hedges supported Green Party candidate Jill Stein in the 2016 election.[44]
On May 27, 2020, Hedges announced that he would run as a Green Party candidate in New Jersey’s 12th congressional district for the 2020 elections. After being informed the following day that running for office would conflict with FCC fairness doctrine rules because he was at that time hosting the nationally broadcast RT America television show On Contact, Hedges decided not to pursue office in order to keep hosting the show.[63][64]
Anyway. Back to the list:
Scott Ritter Glenn Greenwald Tucker Carlson
I don’t recognize all that many of the names on their list. But, the ones that I do recognize that in any way active in the modern day, there is a very distinct through-line (pretty much universal) in the types of people that they “like,” and how those people feel about the invasion of Ukraine.
Anyway, YSK.
Stamau123@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 weeks ago
Agreed. I have such a distrust at this point of any media that fits a particular format and style, and that whole instance checked a bunch of the boxes.
Like, as far as I know, “Drop Site News” and “In These Times” have not done a thing wrong, and still every time I see them I instantly think “What the fuck! Are you guys Russian? What are you up to?”
Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
r/worldnews has always been a joke when it comes to israel/palestine.
Auntievenim@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What an interesting and yet completely unsurprising thing to learn today. Thank you for taking the time to write this up!
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 weeks ago
Yeah. I’ve started to get suspicious of people who go out of their way to tell you that they are bold leftist media, and they’re bringing a needed perspective that is super-vital and not just all propaganda and lies like everything else is. It sort of reminds me of those bank billboards that say, “To us, you’re more than just a number.”