Comment on Apple executives ban Fortnight from the App store

• fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Apple’s software is malware

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  • 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    How so?

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• FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Except Google is trying to limit this on Android phones as well (e.g. with SafetyNet).

  If manufacturers had their way, there wouldn’t be any phones for one side.

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  • Zak@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If manufacturers had their way, there wouldn’t be any phones for one side.

    There’s nothing stopping manufacturers from permanently locking the bootloader. Some do and others don’t suggesting that the industry does not have a universal preference.

    I do think Google wants it to be inconvenient enough to run a version of Android they haven’t blessed as one’s main phone that it has no chance to become mainstream, but that’s about the prospect of an OEM not bundling Google’s apps and store, not hobbyists running custom builds. If that sounds like an attempt to use market power to exclude competitors in violation of fair trading laws in a multitude of jurisdictions, you might be on to something.

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    • FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      There’s nothing stopping manufacturers from permanently locking the bootloader. Some do and others don’t suggesting that the industry does not have a universal preference.

      Some manufacturers have stopped allowing unlocking their bootloaders, some bootloaders have been hacked by the community. It’s not like this is a static system.

      I do think Google wants it to be inconvenient enough to run a version of Android they haven’t blessed as one’s main phone that it has no chance to become mainstream, but that’s about the prospect of an OEM not bundling Google’s apps and store, not hobbyists running custom builds.

      No, Google is also trying to stop hobbyists running custom builds from accessing services built on their software (the aforementioned SafetyNet). Hackers keep finding ways around this, but Google keeps trying to lock them out.

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      • Zak@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No, Google is also trying to stop hobbyists running custom builds from accessing services built on their software (the aforementioned SafetyNet). Hackers keep finding ways around this, but Google keeps trying to lock them out.

        That’s a side effect. If Google really wanted to interfere with hobbyists, they would mandate hardware-based attestation and all the current workarounds would be broken. It would be much harder to create workarounds for that.

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