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• hamsda@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Are the documents you edit with the online editor files which are visible in the online drive? Does nextcloud use the open document specifications for saving documents (e.g. .odt, .ods)? Can you view these files without opening them in the editor (like the preview in google drive)?

  If so, that is acceptable. The document thing is more for completion, I don’t handle documents all too often. And if the online editor is bad or not working but the files are visible and offline-syncable in the drive to some desktop client and they are using the open document format, I can edit them with libreoffice.

  Thanks for the heads-up!

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  • themachine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There is a somewhat native file editor in nextcloud but for your needs I would recommend setting up integration with either OnlyOffice or Collabora (LibreOffice). I am currently using OnlyOffice and while my utilization isn’t much or often it seems to do what it should without any fuss.

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    • hamsda@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Thanks for the tipp!

      I’ll definitely try the native file editor and collabora, just to see how they compare for me. I even found a tutorial by nextcloud on how to integrate collabora (see this post)

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  • MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    • Are the documents you edit with the online editor files which are visible in the online drive?: Yes. It works like Google drive basically, and yea, I don’t use an external editor or something. I just create or upload a file to the cloud, and edit it there using the built in web editor (you just open the file and it opens the editor)

    • Does nextcloud use the open document specifications for saving documents (e.g. .odt, .ods)?: Yes. I believe they use a modified version of Collabora or something. By default, you use the same extensions you’d use with libre software like collabora or libreoffice. It supports opening documents from word, PowerPoint and excel… but often fucks up the formatting in some parts (much like libreoffice)

    • Can you view these files without opening them in the editor (like the preview in google drive)?: No. You view them only via the editor. It should respect permissions though, so if you share a file with read access only, they won’t be able to edit it in the editor.

    You can use any format you want in Nextcloud, it’s just that they might not be supported by their built in editors, but they’ll work fine.

    The reason I use the built in editors is that multiple people can work on a single file at the same time

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    • hamsda@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Thank you for answering!

      Good to know that most things I would need seem to be already working nicely in nextcloud :)

      It should respect permissions though, so if you share a file with read access only, they won’t be able to edit it in the editor.

      I’ll definitely have to try that before trying to send out links.

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      • MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Sure! I always try this

        A small downside: you can’t seem to restrict people commenting on a file you shared. There’s a built in “discuss about this file” feature but it shouldn’t really be a problem, unless you intend on sharing a file to a looot of people, because afaik you can’t moderate it

        I’ll definitely have to try that before trying to send out links.

        Yea, I recommend you always test features to see how they work and what they imply (and if they’re bugged, because Nextcloud often updates and sometimes breaks small things)

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