I’ve seen many men in my current career take paternity leave though. I’ve also worked with a single dad. I’m not saying these aren’t a struggle but they aren’t wholey unique to women. If anything, women are legally protected while pregnant, a guy is not of he starts to struggle with a child birth.
I’m open to the idea what women make less or whatever, I’d just wanna see the numbers because this line of reasoning doesn’t really seem that persuasive.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 17 hours ago
I’ve also seen women with no children with both low and high salaries. The point is not what is possible to happen, but what tends to happen. Women get childcare imposed on them at the cost of their careers and income.
Then there is also the problem that jobs traditionally taken by women are paid less than men. So, again, a man working as a nurse or in childcare is paid less also, but the level of education and work required for these roles is not commensurate with the pay for similar roles for men, like in trades.
Lightor@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
OK, I can acknowledge that. That’s a struggle. I feel that man are often shouldered with financially providing for the child. But different struggles, all that should be sorted out before becoming pregnant if possible.
Nurses take schooling, and men get paid less. Trades take schooling, and men get paid more. It seems like there is just general inequality that needs do be addressed. Not saying has it harder or not, just seems like it’s a spead and should be addressed in general.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone 17 hours ago
Men are shouldered with the financial struggle? Do you mean in a couple with a relationship? So, from your hypothesis, both parents have pressure placed in them by having children. In men’s case it’s to their financial benefit and for women it’s to their financial detriment. Does that not make society sexist in your view? This kind of sexism is what is called structural inequality. It leads to lower wages for women. However, as much as that is an issue, there is also an issue of women getting paid less for the same work. That also happens but can be harder to measure
Yes, everyone on the system can choose to partake differently but they are swimming against the tide tondo so.
Lightor@lemmy.world 12 minutes ago
It’s too men’s financial benefit to have to provide? Having to work jobs that pay what you need doing things you hate because the career you really want doesn’t pay enough to raise a kid?
I feel like you have a very one sided view of this situation. I could say the woman at home could also have time to educate herself and grow while the man could be stuck in a dead end factory job working himself to death to provide. But you just see it as the guy works more so that must mean he’s doing better. No.
And yes, there is women getting paid less for the same work. But as you even admitted, there are some men who get paid less for the same work too. But you seem to be only looking at one side of the problem.