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tfm@europe.pub 3 days agoThe thing is humans are horrible drivers, costing a huge toll in lives and property every year.
True
We may already be at the point where we need to deal with the ethics of inadequate self-driving causing too many accidents vs human causing more.
Are you talking about waymo vs human driver? It’s currently (and maybe never) economical to roll that out globally. That would cost trillions and probably wouldn’t even be feasible everywhere.
Teslas aren’t autonomous but just mere driving assistants so you can’t compare them. Otherwise you’d also have to include the Mercedeses (which btw have the first commercial Level 3 car), BMWs, BYDs, …
but is it ethical to block Immature technology if it does overall save lives?
It would be very unethical to allow companies to profit from dangerous and unsafe technology that kills people.
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 days ago
No manufacturer does good self-driving yet.
Several manufacturers including Tesla make driver assistants more reliable than humans in at least some cases, possibly most of the time.
It’s easy to say you don’t want to allow companies to profit from unsafe technology that kills people but what is the other choice? If you send the trolley down the other track, you’re choosing different deaths at the hands of unsafe humans. We will soon be at the point, or already are, that your choice kills more people. Is that really such an easy choice?
tfm@europe.pub 2 days ago
Where do you get that? From Elon?
Yes safety features and driving assistants make driving safer. Letting the car drive by itself not (especially with Teslas).
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Elon claims Tesla is already past that point. I’ll accept a much larger approximation that several manufacturers are past or near that point. Even if you’re skeptical of the claim, it’s clearly close enough to be concerned about.
tfm@europe.pub 2 days ago
Elon claims a lot of shit. Most of them are lies. He cannot prove with real data that “FSD” really crashes less.
Again, Teslas aren’t even considered autonomous cars.
Don’t get me wrong, I want to be optimistic. But currently it looks like this will take much longer to succeed than Elon and other hype men claimed.