The copyright industry would never accept that. Where’s the money for them?
wosat@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Thought experiment: What if AI companies were allowed to use copyrighted material for free as long as they release their models to the public? Want to keep your model private? Pay up. Similar to the GPL.
General_Effort@lemmy.world 3 days ago
catloaf@lemm.ee 3 days ago
It still devalues the work of individual creators.
thewedtdeservedit@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
It devalues universal share value yea
boramalper@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Fun fact: Copyright is also the basis on which you enforce copyleft provisions such as the those in GPL. In a world without copyright, there are no software licenses yet alone copyleft.
I know it’s very challenging for “this community” (FOSS users & developers let’s say) because a significant number of them also support shadow libraries such as Sci-Hub and Library Genesis and Anna’s Archive so how do we reconcile “copyleft (therefore copyright) good” with “copyright bad”?
I don’t have a clear answer yet but maybe the difference is as simple as violating copyright for personal purposes vs business purposes? Anyway…
CosmicGiraffe@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The GPL uses copyright because it’s the legal mechanism available to enforce the principles that the GPL wants to enforce. It’s entirely consistent to believe that copyright shouldn’t exist while also believing that a law should exist to allow/enforce the principles of the GPL.
boramalper@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That’s fair! Though I find it (new laws that enforce the principles of copyleft) pretty unlikely so I’d much prefer a world with copyright + copyleft (GPL) than a world without either where mega corporations can exploit the commons without being obliged to share back.
catloaf@lemm.ee 2 days ago
It’s literally called copyright because it’s about the rights to copy something. The new law would still be a form of copyright.
drmoose@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Without copyright there would be no need for copyleft. Its right there in the name.
boramalper@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It sounds plausible but it’s wrong. Without copyright, you are allowed to copy, use, and distribute all digital works regardless but being legally allowed doesn’t mean (a) that you are able to (e.g. copying might be ~impossible due to DRM and other security measures) and (b) that you are entitled to the source code of such work so someone can take your FOSS code, put it in their proprietary software, and then distribute only the binaries.
Copyleft licenses, through copyright, enforce sharing.
Aux@feddit.uk 2 days ago
The whole point for many, me included, is for everyone to be able to use any works in any way we want. Including putting “open source” code into “proprietary” binaries. Because there are no proprietary binaries without IP protections - everyone can just decompile the code and reuse it.