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• sudneo@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Gulag = Гла́вное Управле́ние исправи́тельно-трудовы́х ЛАГере́й (Main Directorate of Correctional Labour Camps)

  Prison = тюрьма

  Not a (Russian) native speaker, but still.

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• Edie@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Gulag is the russian word for prison

  According to wikipedia, no, it comes from the abbreviation of “Main Directorate of Correctional Labour Camps”, in Russian: Гла́вное Управле́ние исправи́тельно-трудовы́х ЛАГере́й (ГУЛАГ).

  If you would consult the chart:

  “system of places for deprivation of liberty”

  You will find “Correctional Labor Camp” under the O.G.P.U (as wikipedia also says). Of course, libs can’t tell the difference between CLC under the O.G.P.U and Colonies under the PC of Justice and will call both gulag.

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• passenger@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Just wow at this whataboutism, defending Stalin of all people.

  Gulag is the Russian word for prison, where people die or get sent to the grinder.

  There was this opposing candidate to Putin, where did he end up? Gulag.

  Until Russia gets humane treatment for prisoners, the word gulag deserves the negative connotations it has.

  Ever heard of Holodomor?

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  • Kieselguhr@hexbear.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ever heard of Holodomor?

    Have you?

    Just between February and July 1933, [Stalin] signed or countenanced nearly three dozen small allocations of food aid to the countryside, primarily to the North Caucasus and Ukraine, as well as the Kazakh lands (which necessitated sharp reductions in the bread rations for city dwellers, many of whom were put on the brink of starvation). All of these actions were woefully insufficient for avoiding the mass starvation in the countryside caused by his policies, in the face of challenging natural conditions. Still, these actions do not indicate that he was trying to exterminate peasants or ethnic Ukrainians. In the Kazakh autonomous republic, probably between 35 and 40 percent of the titular nation—as compared with 8 to 9 percent of Slavs there—perished from starvation or disease, not because the regime targeted Kazakhs by ethnicity, but because regime policy there consisted of forced denomadization. Similarly, there was no “Ukrainian” famine; the famine was Soviet.

    • Stalin: Waiting for Hitler, 1929-1941 by Stephen Kotkin published in October 2017 by Penguin Random House This is a very mainstream Stalin biography by Princeton professor.

    Have you heard what the French did to Algerians?

    Atrocities committed against Algerians by the French army during the war included indiscriminate shootings into civilian crowds (such as during the Paris massacre of 1961), execution of civilians when rebel attacks occurred, bombings of villages suspected of helping the FLN,removed, disembowelment of pregnant women, imprisonment without food in small cells (some of which were small enough to impede lying down), throwing detainees from helicopters and into the sea with concrete on their feet, and burying people alive. Torture methods included beatings, mutilations, burning, hanging by the feet or hands, torture by electroshock, waterboarding, sleep deprivation and sexual assaults.

    Now you’ll say this is whataboutism, but if you always bring up an imaginary genocide like the Holodomor when someone talks about the USSR or Russia, but you never mention this actual mass murder when someone talks about France then you are a giant hypocrite.

    The West was worse by their own metrics of bodycount.

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  • AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ever heard of Holodomor?

    There are enough links in this thread already showing that this is literally nazi propaganda that I think it’s fair to assume you’re a deliberate nazi instead of an idiot getting strung along

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