Maybe bots shouldn’t be trying to install malicious code? Sucks to suck.
Comment on I use Zip Bombs to Protect my Server
deaddigger@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
At least in germany having one of these on your system is illegal
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Still illegal. Not immoral, but a lot of our laws aren’t built on morality.
raltoid@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Illegal to publically serve or distribute.
dzso@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Out of curiosity, what is illegal about it, exactly?
deaddigger@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I mean i am not a lawyer.
In germany we have § 303 b StGB. In short it says if you hinder someone elses dataprocessing through physical means or malicous data you can go to jail for up to 3 years . If it is a major process for someone you can get up to 5 and in major cases up to 10 years.
So if you have a zipbomb on your system and a crawler reads and unpacks it you did two crimes. 1. You hindered that crawlers dataprocessing 2. Some isp nodes look into it and can crash too. If the isp is pissed of enough you can go to jail for 5 years. This applies even if you didnt crash them die to them having protection agsinst it, because trying it is also against the law.
Having a zipbomb is part of a gray area. Because trying to disrupt dataprocessing is illegal, having a zipbomb can be considered trying, however i am not aware of any judgement in this regard
barsoap@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Severely disrupting other people’s data processing of significant import to them. By submitting malicious data requires intent to cause harm, physical destruction, deletion, etc, doesn’t.
Why the hell would an ISP have a look at this. And ever if, they’re professional enough to detect zip bombs. Which btw is why this whole thing is pointless anyway: If you class requests as malicious, just don’t serve them. Much more sensible to go the anubis route and demand proof of work as that catches crawlers which come from a gazillion IPs with different user agents etc.
deaddigger@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Telecom for example does Deep PackageI spection. That is rather well kown. Derec made a statement years ago that it is normal for other european isps too. Here is a secondary source for it, i cant find the primary source anymore netzpolitik.org/…/berec-studie-dpi-bei-vielen-pro…
If you are succesful in disrupting some dataprocessing doesnt matter, trying to do it is illigal. If you put it there to disrupt crawlers you are trying to disrupt an entities dataprocessing.
If your isp does dpi an archive bomb is able to crash their server. Even if they have measures againt it, it is still illigal because trying it is illigal.
MimicJar@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I wonder if having a robots.txt file that said to ignore the file/path would help.
I’m assuming a bad bot would ignore the robots.txt file. So you could argue that you put up a clear sign and they chose to ignore it.
deaddigger@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Good question i dont know tbh. Would be an interesring question for a lawyer influencer
raltoid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
TL;DR: It’s illegal to have publically available or share.
Making it illegal to make one for research purposes on your own hardware is not illegal. Or if it is, I wouldn’t mind seeing someone challenge that with the EU.
deaddigger@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
For research purposes you could make it password protected, which would make it legal, though. Like i said having one is a gray area, because the law is made extremly vague. Like i said i dont know of any judgements about it, but it is still a possibility. If you life in germany and are inclined for an archive bomb and care about your legal safety contact a lawyer beforehand