Comment on Decentralization Scoring System (v1.3)

pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why is there a “Top Provider Content Share” metric if its gonna score the same as the “Top Provider User Share” every time ?

  As said in the footer, this is a work in progress, I’m posting it to get input and still refining sources

  Why is the Top Provider Content Share not higher than the user share ? For instance, emails usually have at least one sender and one recipient, making it twice as likely that at least one of them is using gmail. If an email has 10 recipients across 10 different providers, each provider has a copy of the data

  I’d love to get better data on this, I’ve looked but not yet found better data than what I included in the source

  Why is ease of hosting a mail server rated so well ? How is “leveraging email hosting services” decentralized in any way ?

  Here I’m a bit in two minds, sure it’s difficult to SELF host email, but in practice it isn’t because there are hundreds (Thousands?) of hosting options to choose from where you can choose your own domain etc. for the low price of basically-free

  Why are we using a random repo created a few hours ago by a random github user as a reference ?

  It’s my repo, it’s to keep track of the versions and so that others can copy, edit and share it if they like.

  source
• palitu@aussie.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  In regards to email hosting.

  It is not about hosting the server on your own infrastructure, it is about having there code to host it out have another provider.

  There are a lot of email providers!

  Also, if you look at the way Lemmy works, it is the same as emails. If they federate a community, the data is kept on both the original server and the federated one, so you duplicate to m the data, similar to an email server.

  It is an interesting concept, and maybe the score should just reduce down to brush categories, like fully decentralized, potential decentralized, neither, partially centralized, fully centralized.

  Then we won’t nitpick on the school l score too much?

  source
• rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why is ease of hosting a mail server rated so well ? How is “leveraging email hosting services” decentralized in any way ?

  Because somebody there doesn’t even understand you’re supposed to host an email server as easily as hosting a web server with a website. While in reality you’ll learn all the Satanish obscene lexicon before making big email providers accept your mail.

  I’m exaggerating probably, but ahem.

  That said, in my humble careless incompetent “let’s-go-back-to-year-2005” opinion we need a new email standard, spiritually same, but qualitatively different, like the upgrade from prehistoric email with UUCP paths to something more modern, only this time cutting down all the DMARC and DKIM bullshit and simply using pubkeys in To: and From: headers, with the email itself signed by the author, by mail server and maybe by something else. One can make encryption of email content the baseline norm while we’re at it. One can even get rid of the attachment of identities to mail servers and use servers similar to how NOSTR has relays. I mean, what I described already is just NOSTR with nostalgic aesthetics. Maybe also similar to some kind of Fidonet reimagined.

  source