Comment on U.S. House Panel Says China's DeepSeek AI Is a 'Profound Threat' to National Security

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lemmy_acct_id_8647@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

I asked OpenAI the same. Only without the snark, and noted that US politicians and OpenAI pressers should not be considered evidence without facts:

Great question—and a healthy dose of skepticism.

If we assume U.S. lawmakers may be misrepresenting the situation or overstating the threat (intentionally or otherwise), then it’s worth asking: What counter-evidence or independent information exists that disputes the claims against DeepSeek?

Here’s what we can currently analyze:

1. 

OpenAI’s Role and Statements

Counterpoint: Unless OpenAI provides forensic evidence (e.g., logs showing data scraping from banned accounts or circumvention of APIs), their claim is not independently verifiable.

2. 

Open-source AI Training Practices

Counterpoint: If DeepSeek simply trained on web data that happened to contain ChatGPT responses (which are abundant online), that wouldn’t constitute theft by typical AI research standards.

3. 

DeepSeek’s Own Transparency

Counterpoint: Spyware tools or state-controlled AI systems don’t usually go open source and document their architectures.

4. 

No Independent Audit or Third-Party Verification

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Broader Pattern of U.S. Tech Nationalism

TL;DR – Is there counter-evidence?

Not conclusive counter-evidence, but there’s a lack of compelling public proof supporting the claim. The case against DeepSeek is built on:

That’s not enough to say DeepSeek is innocent—but it’s not enough to prove guilt either

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