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Ensign_Rutherford@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

She is totally one of my faves. I wasn’t even aware of all this stuff about Tuvix until I joined lemmy, personally I don’t think she did anything wrong either

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Jaccident@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
How can you listen to Tuvix’s desperate begging and say that?

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- Stamets@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Needs of the many
  
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  - Jaccident@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If I could reverse engineer your dead parents from your DNA, but it would kill you, have I therefore a moral imperative to deconstruct you, even against your will?
    
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    Stamets@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That is a bad faith argument. You’re ignoring the entire context of the situation. On top of that, you’re narrowly compacting the actual ethical/moral situation at hand.
    
    I’m down for an actual discussion, if you want, but not if it’s gonna be like that. The discussion around Tuvix is not as black or white as you’re painting it out to be.
    
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  - illusoryMechanist@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Tuvix was more effective than both Tuvok and Neelix and comsumed less resources. Needs of the many should actually lead to more crew fusions, not less.
    
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    Stamets@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    It is quite literally impossible to be more effective than both Tuvok and Neelix. Both had their own individual jobs that were now collated into a single being. He had less time and availability to answer all issues. He cannot be in two places at once.
    
    If Tuvix was injured or killed then two roles were left unfilled.
    
    While ‘sort-of-but-not-really’ the same person, that didn’t stop everyone from feeling the loss of Tuvok and Neelix. This new guy may have had the same memories and experiences but he had a completely different outlook on all of those memories. Relationships that had been built with both crewmen now were left to wither and die.
    
    Tuvix was already damaging crew morale. There’s a reason that the bridge had zero response to him being led away. Tuvix wasn’t their friend and never was. He wasn’t the person they had built a relationship with. He was a perpetual reminder that everything they knew was gone. They lost not only their morale officer but a senior officer.
    
    The needs of the many were fulfilled by unmaking the mistake of Tuvix.
    
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