It’s really more about the eOS.
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Karlos_Cantana@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
It looks like these are Android phones that have just been rooted and had a different os installed.
Wave@monero.town 9 months ago
Karlos_Cantana@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
I’m probably just overly paranoid, but I don’t trust that Google, in particular, would make the most easily rooted phone (Pixel) without burying something beneath the os that still tracks things.
I’m more excited about something akin to the Fairphone that’s built from the ground up with no relationship to Google.
Wave@monero.town 9 months ago
goosegooseboat@lemmy.world 9 months ago
As someone that happens to using e/os on a phone with an unofficial device. You are technically correct. They offer custom Roms for a variety of devices that you can install however they also have their own range of devices which admittedly is lack luster in terms of price to performance. From what I gather those devices try to follow in the footsteps of the Fairphone but with all the growing pains of a startup… I like the os. they offer cloud services as an addon that you can pay for which is based on nextcloud. The integration with the cloud services in surprisingly deep. Coming back to the fact that its based on nextcloud you also have the option to self host (which I recommend) and still benefit from the tight integration and that aspect alone is a major reason why I’m still using it. Gallery, notes,backups,cloud storage. All the Google like service’s built in but without the Google
Gryzor@lemmyfly.org 9 months ago
The biggest problem I’ve had with e/OS is the lack of apps. Banking apps, official apps, etc. All require Google Play most of the time. As an Android developer, I know how to make this work, but the average user won’t.
I haven’t tried in two years. Maybe things have changed.
goosegooseboat@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I can’t personally speak on the banking side. e/os has micro g implemented now, and on my device it passes the safety checks associated with it. To be fair though I can’t give a full endorsement for how well micro g works as a whole (I’m not logged in) In general I’ve shifted to FOSS apps so my sample size for google play services reliant apps is limited but the one’s I have used, open fine without annoying pop up errors.
ilmagico@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I think you’re confusing rooting with unlocking the bootloader. These most definitely have the bootloader unlocked, or at least, it had to be unlocked to replace the OS (sometimes it can be re-locked after), but they aren’t necessarily rooted.
Bootloader unlocking is officially supported by many manufacturers (though your warranty is voided), and allows modifying the OS, which might be rooting, or completely replacing the OS (and the new OS might not be rooted).
Rooting, instead, just means becoming “root” (superuser, admin) on the device, which allows (almost) complete control over it.
ku10@kerala.party 9 months ago
You could say the same about a Kindle
lemann@lemmy.one 9 months ago
Fairphone officially supports /e/OS devices
Also Android devices don’t need to be rooted to install an alternative OS
Karlos_Cantana@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
How do you install an alternate os if the phone isn’t rootable? Everything I’ve tried starts with rooting, and there’s not a way to root my particular phone.
fulano@lemmy.eco.br 9 months ago
Depends on the device. Some allow the bootloader to be unlocked officially. Root is usually needed when you unlock the bootloader unofficially, using some hack.
Also, /e/os supports an official gsi, which can be installed without root.
That said, these phones aren’t suited for people that need absolute security and privacy. They’re more experimental and aimed at enthusiasts of the project who want to support it.
I can see why eos raises some concerns, but i find it to be an interesting alternative with moderate potential. We definitely need more alternatives to standard android.