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applemao@lemmy.world 1 week agoBut music is stagnated now because everything has been done, ai makes most pop music, and a new “song” is released every minute. We have far surpassed there ever being originality again.
Hopefully people will still want live performance by a human because that is all that’s left for the arts. Corpos will destroy it with ai slop that normal people won’t be able to differentiate from human creation.
Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Music has absolutely not stagnated and the only people who say that are people who have a passing interest (or none at all) and no desire to seek out anything beyond a Spotify playlist of tiktok trends.
And just because [insert your favorite genre] isn’t topping charts right now, doesn’t mean that a) it’s gone away, and b) that the music that is popular is bad. And also, just because the some music that gets popular is less dynamic or complex than others doesn’t mean it has nothing to say or has no value.
Honestly, the ‘modern music bad’ take is so braindead and it makes me so sad thinking about the people who refuse to allow new music in their life just so they can hold up holier than thou beliefs about the music they grew up with.
applemao@lemmy.world 1 week ago
It doesn’t really have anything to do with old music being better, it’s not, I’m just saying with a new song released every minute and billions of people on earth, there is nothing new. Everything sounds like something else, it’s inevitable.
Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Objectively false.
52 cards make more combinations than there are atoms in the universe, you can have data centers filled with random numbers generators and they wouldn’t draw the same card twice.
That example uses one dimension, just that single set, with music you have multiple dimensions, even if you get extremely specific, and say that you have 10 chords along 12 root notes (this basically forces you into western music, no diminished chords, just the triads and the sevenths) you have 300 million unique sets of 4 ordered chords (a typical chord progression, that’s effectively an entire lifetime of 4 minute songs non stop before you get to something that has been done before.
If you add in time signatures, swing, length, silence, noise, volume, tempo, arrangement, etc, you end up with effectively infinite combinations.
But that doesn’t matter anything, because you seem to be assuming that because a component may exist in some form already it means nothing new can be derived from it.
Music speaks to its time and its culture, it tells stories and reflects the emotions of the world it is created in. That world constantly changes. Sampling a sound from an old song can create something new, the story told by the old sound can be different. A derivative work does not a copy cat make and it actually believes it or not is possible to make new music even if the same chord progression exists.
And that doesn’t even begin to include the variation in production style, effects, or the biological differences in people’s vocal chords.
What makes you think that you are so special that your little 80 year lifetime landed right in the middle of the death of music. And what makes you think new things can’t be done, it’s only been 50ish years since we’ve even had a grasp on stuff like synthesizers.
applemao@lemmy.world 1 week ago
You’re forgetting one thing. All those details you mentioned, 99.8% of all humanity does not care or notice any of that. They will listen to AI trash and like it just the same. Also, show me one actually new thing that’s been done with synthesizers that I haven’t heard before, I’d be surprised if you could. I’m just saying, nothing is original. When recorded music first existed in the later 1800s, it was actually new. I’m not arguing nothing is good anymore, I’m saying nothing is new. There’s a difference.
Valmond@lemmy.world 1 week ago
There is a lot of shit mysic today, but there was a lot of shit music in the nineties too!
Go get that nugget!