Comment on European police say KidFlix, "one of the largest pedophile platforms in the world," busted in joint operation.

• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Issue is, AI is often trained on real children, sometimes even real CSAM(allegedly), which makes the “no real children were harmed” part not necessarily 100% true.

  Also since AI can generate photorealistic imagery, it also muddies the water for the real thing.

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• Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  that is still cp, and distributing CP still harms childrens, eventually they want to move on to the real thing, as porn is not satisfying them anymore.

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  • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    eventually they want to move on to the real thing, as porn is not satisfying them anymore.

    Isn’t this basically the same argument as arguing violent media creates killers?

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• quack@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Understand you’re not advocating for it, but I do take issue with the idea that AI CSAM will prevent children from being harmed. While it might satisfy some of them (at first, until the high from that wears off and they need progressively harder stuff), a lot of pedophiles are just straight up sadistic fucks and a real child being hurt is what gets them off. I think it’ll just make the “real” stuff even more valuable in their eyes.

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  • Corno@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I feel the same way. I’ve seen the argument that it’s analogous to violence in videogames, but it’s pretty disingenuous since people typically play videogames to have fun and for escapism, whereas with CSAM the person seeking it out is doing so in bad faith. A more apt comparison would be people who go out of their way to hurt animals.

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    • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      A more apt comparison would be people who go out of their way to hurt animals.

      Is it? That person is going out of their way to do actual violence. It feels like arguing someone watching a slasher movie is more likely to make them go commit murder is a much closer analogy to someone watching a cartoon of a child engaged in sexual activity or w/e being more likely to make them molest a real kid.

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• misteloct@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Somehow I doubt allowing it actually meaningfully helps the situation. It sounds like an alcoholic arguing that a glass of wine actually helps them not drink.

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