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Geetnerd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Well, some pedophiles have argued that AI generated child porn should be allowed, so real humans are not harmed, and exploited.

I’m conflicted on that. Naturally, I’m disgusted, and repulsed.

But if no real child is harmed…

I don’t want to think about it, anymore.

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ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Issue is, AI is often trained on real children, sometimes even real CSAM(allegedly), which makes the “no real children were harmed” part not necessarily 100% true.

Also since AI can generate photorealistic imagery, it also muddies the water for the real thing.

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- Geetnerd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I didn’t think about that.
  
  The whole issue is abominable, and odious.
  
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Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
that is still cp, and distributing CP still harms childrens, eventually they want to move on to the real thing, as porn is not satisfying them anymore.

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- Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  eventually they want to move on to the real thing, as porn is not satisfying them anymore.
  
  Isn’t this basically the same argument as arguing violent media creates killers?
  
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- Geetnerd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Exactly.
  
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quack@lemmy.zip ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Understand you’re not advocating for it, but I do take issue with the idea that AI CSAM will prevent children from being harmed. While it might satisfy some of them (at first, until the high from that wears off and they need progressively harder stuff), a lot of pedophiles are just straight up sadistic fucks and a real child being hurt is what gets them off. I think it’ll just make the “real” stuff even more valuable in their eyes.

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- Corno@lemm.ee ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I feel the same way. I’ve seen the argument that it’s analogous to violence in videogames, but it’s pretty disingenuous since people typically play videogames to have fun and for escapism, whereas with CSAM the person seeking it out is doing so in bad faith. A more apt comparison would be people who go out of their way to hurt animals.
  
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misteloct@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Somehow I doubt allowing it actually meaningfully helps the situation. It sounds like an alcoholic arguing that a glass of wine actually helps them not drink.

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- Geetnerd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I agree.
  
  There’s no helping actual pedophiles. That’s who they are.
  
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