Comment on UK government says anyone working in Britain for the Russian state will have to register and declare what they are doing or face jail

• flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I checked in the DB and the other Hexbear votes happened quite a bit after the comment was made. I don’t think someone doing voter fraud would wait 50 minutes, then another 15, to boost a comment, but maybe I’m underestimating their dedication.

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  • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    IDK, man. Try this:

    SELECT p.actor_id, comment_id, score, cl.published FROM person p, comment_like cl, comment c WHERE cl.post_id = 26726744 AND p.id = cl.person_id AND c.id = cl.comment_id ORDER BY cl.published ASC;
    

    Hit slash and type hexbear to highlight all the hexbears. That little grouping of three of their users coming in and giving out basically identical voting patterns, all of a sudden, at 18:16 / 18:29 / 18:31 (in my instance’s timestamps) after almost an hour of silence, looks pretty extremely sus. To me.

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    • flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I got the same timestamps with:

      select name, score, comment_like.published from comment_like 
      left join person on comment_like.person_id = person.id 
      where comment_id = 16354453;
      

      IDK, I just don’t think this is the pattern of someone boosting their comment (see !albumartporn@lemmy.world for actual vote manipulation), or at the very least I don’t think it’s Plinky doing it (he’s a fairly regular contributor to UK threads and this is the first time those accounts have interacted with his comments here).

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      • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I get that yeah, but mine gives more context. Seeing other comments besides that one that the three accounts voted on in exactly the same fashion as each other, in the same order, and the pace of voting generally to give context to how unusual the little block all within 15 minutes is, gives a clearer impression of how unusual it is. The other comment they all voted the same way on wasn’t any kind of particularly notable comment to draw every Hexbear user’s attention somehow.

        It’s not really ironclad or anything, but it’s certainly sus. And yes I agree, it sort of looks like Plinky’s comment and voting was genuine, and then one Hexbear person noticed the comment after a while and voted on it three times. Why they do that sort of thing, I don’t really have a clear idea.

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• Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ive noticed constant vote weirdness from anything to do with hexbear as well, they really are insufferable.

  Hopefully dbz0 defederates sometime in the future.

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• manicdave@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m not from hexbear and I agree. It’s absurd that we let anyone who’s primary interests are in another country dictate what our government does. That also goes for China, the US, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and anyone else too. The British government should act in the interests of Britons.

  I’ll also note - while we’re accusing people of astroturfing - you spelled labour wrong.

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  • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If y’all wanted to keep your weird little "u"s in the official spellings you should have won the war. 😃

    I am extremely American, I’m just offering some input as an observer, being concerned about your democracy as I am about my own.

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