Comment on Dad demands OpenAI delete ChatGPT’s false claim that he murdered his kids

• thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Surely you jest because it’s so clearly not if you understand how LLMs work (at the core it’s a statistic model - and therefore all approximation to a varying degree).

  But great can come out of this case.

  Imagine the ilk of OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, XAI, etc. being forced to admit that an LLM can’t actually do anything but generate approximations of language. That these models (again LLMs in particular) produce approximations of language that are so good they’re often indistinguishable from the versions our brains approximate.

  But at the core they cannot produce facts because the way they are made includes artificially injected randomness layered on-top of mathematically encoded values that merely get expressed as tiny pieces of language (tokens) - ones that happen to be close to each other in a massively multidimensional vector space.

  TLDR - they’d be forced to admit the emperor has no clothes and that’s a win for everyone (except maybe this one guy).

  Also it’s worth noting I use LLMs for work almost daily and have studied them quite a bit. I’m not a hater on the tech. Only the capitalists trying to force it down everyone’s throat in such a way that we blindly adopt it for everything.

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  • redwattlebird@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Could we move away from calling it hallucinations as that would imply thinking? We should call it for what it is - bullshit.

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    • eleitl@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Confabulation is a more appropriate term.

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  • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    this is confusing. did you think I meant you’re engaging in libel against llms or something? that’s the only way I can make sense of your reply.

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    • thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Really? I read your reply as saying the output is libellous - which it cannot be because it is not based in fact.

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      • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        all I’m getting is that you’re saying it’s full of shit as a defense against libel.

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