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ramble81@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Something else that people don’t think about besides the backend server is the connectivity. A lot of these cars use LTE with eSIMs that can’t be replaced, and getting an internet package for it will be next to impossible since Tesla gets them at bulk rates. Once upon a time cars did allow “bring your own SIM cards” but not anymore. Also as cars get older the cell networks get shut down. Some companies did offer upgrades but that was few and far between. Most just said “sorry, you’re SOL”.

So even if you could hack your car, your car won’t have any way of talking to a custom endpoint.

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EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
And this is another reason why putting internet on cars is a bad idea

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- ramble81@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I mean, what’s the alternative? It’s not like it has to have internet. Anything internet connected is mainly quality of life:
  
  Traffic
  
  Remote (app) features
  
  Music Except maybe Teslas, damned if I know what they do. But they’re nice to have things that generally require realtime updates but the car functions just fine as a car without it.
  
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  - stetech@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    Traffic
    
    Phone (CarPlay/Android Auto (yes I know Tesla doesn’t have them, garbage decision you’ll have to live with if you bought one)
    
    Remote (app) features
    
    Don’t care/want/need, plus security risk. If you really can’t do without, use WiFi when at home, and no-idea-what for when on the go.
    
    Music
    
    See point 1, also “dumb” media devices via Bluetooth/USB should be possible.
    
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    ramble81@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Again though, they are all quality of life things. You don’t have to use it on most cars. Don’t want it, don’t pay for it and don’t use it. So just like giving people the choice of AA/CP, what’s wrong with giving them the choice of using those features?
    
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  - EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Public transit/bikes are (or should be) a good alternative if you can’t find normal, used, dumb cars anymore
    
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    ramble81@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    That’s a non-sequeter. You started by saying that internet on cars were bad and then switched to “you should be using bikes”
    
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joel_feila@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Could a Tesla ever work if the cell network went down

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- ramble81@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I think I mentioned it in another post but Schwaticars are a bit different. Though I’d assume they’d have to have some basic functionality in the event of an outage. “Always on” hasn’t come to cars… yet
  
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  - joel_feila@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It would be funny if old cell network dependency bought down tesla. Just every car made in gets bricked in the Future
    
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