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azalty@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

90%+ apps require Google play services, which basically allows them to know every app you use, and potentially more.

There’s also a surge in apps implementing integrity checks, which makes you unable to run certain apps entirely with a custom ROM

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guismo@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Just like Ulrich thinking installing graphene being easy is just his experience, that is just your experience. I don’t have a single app that needs google play and that’s one thing i find it easy.

Whatever would need it i just use their website. Sure they try a lot to annoy you into using their useless app but it’s doable and becomes an incentive to find a better service.

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- azalty@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  You can find your way around, but you’ll spend twice the amount of time doing the same tasks that you could easily do on apps. Also, bye bye bank apps, or any Android games
  
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  - guismo@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I use my phone a lot lot. It’s a terrible addiction. But yeah, I’m not the usual user and my needs are different.
    
    But I disagree with “spending twice the amount of time”. I’ve never seen that except on evil stuff that just handicaps the website on mobile for no reason other than “I’ll force you to use my app through pain”, when the desktop site is as good or even better than the app. And if it’s one of those companies, to me it’s a red flag. It’s not a service I’m using, it’s a company trying to abuse me as far as they can and I’ll be dumb if I continue on that abusive relationship and not break up.
    
    But ending an abusive relationship is a personal choice. But to me they are inflicting that pain on them selves.
    
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Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
No they don’t. More like 5%. What % of Apple apps require Apple services?

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- azalty@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  support.google.com/googleplay/…/112622
  
  15% for the first $1M (USD) revenue earned by the developer each year 30% for earnings in excess of $1M (USD) revenue earned by the developer each year
  
  Apple takes 30%
  
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  - Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    My dude, what are you talking about? We were discussing Google Play services dependency, not the platform’s cut of revenue.
    
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    azalty@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    and what % of apps are installed outside of the Google Play Store…?
    
    They push warning messages all over the OS to deter users from doing that…
    
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