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_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Android may be created by an advertising company but they also give you the ability to run whatever OS you want and strip it of Google’s proprietary software completely. These days you can install OS like Graphene by simply plugging in your phone and clicking buttons in your browser.

This is patently untrue, and a total misrepresentation of the facts. You can install other OSes on a rather small list of Android phones. Furthermore, while the user might just be clicking a few buttons, behind the scenes those buttons put into play a rather complex series of actions that break the protections put into place by Google and phone manufacturers to stop you from doing exactly that.

Saying that Google gives you the ability to install other OSes is like saying Sony gives you the ability to install other OSes on the Playstation. it isn’t true, Google never gave you that ability, the technical wizardry of white hat hackers did.

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Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

This is patently untrue, and a total misrepresentation of the facts.

LOL what? No it isn’t.

You can install other OSes on a rather small list of Android phones.

How many iPhones can you install another OS on? That’s nothing to do with Android anyway, you’d have to talk to the OEMs and carriers about that, Google lets you do it on their phones.

while the user might just be clicking a few buttons, behind the scenes those buttons put into play a rather complex series of actions that break the protections put into place by Google and phone manufacturers to stop you from doing exactly that.

No, it doesn’t. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Saying that Google gives you the ability to install other OSes is like saying Sony gives you the ability to install other OSes on the Playstation.

No, it’s not. There’s a toggle that Google put in the stock settings specifically for that purpose.

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- _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  No, it doesn’t. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
  
  Kid, you’ve no fucking idea what I know, so stop with this adolescent shit. Your whole post is nothing more than you saying “nuh uh” to everything I wrote. If you’re going to argue about stuff, at least take the time to actually be fucking informed about what you’re talking about. I’ve been jailbreaking iPhones and taking apart Android since before you were old enough to even know what XDA was.
  
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  - Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    you’ve no fucking idea what I know,
    
    I know you know nothing about this.
    
    Your whole post is nothing more than you saying “nuh uh” to everything I wrote
    
    …and what do you think you wrote? I didn’t see any evidence? Get a Pixel (or other similarly unlockable device), go into the settings and look for the “OEM unlocking” toggle. There’s your evidence. Maybe you can learn something new today.
    
    I’ve been jailbreaking iPhones and taking apart Android since before you were old enough to even know what XDA is.
    
    You’ve no idea how old I am.
    
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  - MasterBuilder@lemmy.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Well, take a look at LineageOS and the associated microg edition. They work on dozens of devices. I’ve been flashing ROM’s since the first Android phone and I’m still using my Pixel 2XL, degoogled. I still have my Moto X 2013 {with custim, now unusable ROM} because it is like a river rock. It feels great to hold.
    
    Google phones have always been unlockable - primarily for the benefit of developers.
    
    Calyx also offers a degoogled Android, focused on privacy like Graphene.
    
    If one wants a phone and own it, Google is the only sure way right now.
    
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    _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    Google is the only sure way right now.
    
    You heard it right here on Privacy Guides, ladies and gents!
    
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