Lol when actually asked about the stuff china is doing though you have repeatedly just hand waved it as I won’t go into that. You say stuff to establish yourself as an expert and yet have done nothing but just called me a brain rot liberal. You in fact have 0 concept of my background or upbringing and have just assumed because I have sat on my mobile phone and haven’t taken the time to go point by point explaining what I meant that I am some inferior person with no intellect of ability to think critically about my world view or escape the brainwashing I have been subjected to.
Please, enlighten me on all the truly had stuff china did, talk about it. Up to this point all you have actually done is speak positively about Tienammen square and hand waved “bad stuff” for china without saying it. Do it. Im worth all this other “time” you spent, but I’m not worth taking the time on actually saying anything bad about china? Still sounds like you aren’t who you say you are.
freagle@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
Nope. Not doing it. You have demonstrated that you’re not here for a conversation. You’re just here to virtue signal, state your unexamined beliefs as universally accepted facts, and never ever ever engage in good faith. I won’t be dragged into a debate until you address the fact that you pivoted to avoid actual debate. Until then, I have no interest in arguing with you about any topic.
It’s pretty easy to look up China’s terrible early foreign policy. Nearly every Western communist who has done research into China has had to address it.
You think me saying that violence during the Tiananmen Square student protests is “speaking positively” about it? It was a terrible event, it just wasn’t what Western propagandists say it is. It wasn’t a massacre by the government, and it wasn’t the military opening fire on unarmed protestors. It wasn’t tanks crushing human bodies in the stretlet. It wasn’t any of those things. And it was still a bad event. People died, both protestors and security personnel. There was violence. The fact that you think me saying this is “positive” because I reject the propaganda about a massacre for which there is no evidence and against which there is ample evidence even from Western journalists - that’s exactly what I’m talking about when I talk about your beliefs not matching reality.
You’re still incapable of sticking to your original point which is that China is an exceptionally bad actor in taking quotes out of context to create a narrative. Until and unless you are capable of having that discussion, you cannot earn credibility by just continuing to pivot to new topics and demanding that I engage you in debate about historical facts. I won’t do it because you have shown yourself to be unwilling to argue in good faith.
MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Gloves are off and you won’t / can’t talk about what you believe about china in a meaningful way. All the rest is deflection and blame on me. I in fact was and have been open to entertaining more than one viewpoint, you have merely twisted what I’ve said to make it seem like I’m the one who won’t actually have a conversation here.
That’s why I asked questions which you refuse to answer.
The conversation here speaks for itself. If you want to blame me for refusing to engage, by all means, do so.