Comment on Vance eviscerates 'Soviet'-style European censorship in address to Munich Security Conference
SeanBrently@lemm.ee 5 days agoYes, yes you are 100% right. It is effortless to make a moral case against the defense industry as a whole and against the corporate-money worshipping, genocide participant right-of-center liberal democrats in specific, and I am not here to defend either of those.
And yes, we know the Ukrainians are not all angels. There no reason to doubt the accusations of nazism and human rights violations against the azov brigade. But interesting- Azov gets brought up so much in ruzzian propaganda, it seems funny to focus on during a discussion of the bullshit antics of the US vice president.
The point here is that during a meeting to discuss the defence of Ukranian civilians against a foe that bombed a maternity and children’s hospital as one of the first things on their to-do list, Vance goes off on a unhinged tirade about free speech.
The point here is that our neighbors and relations are being so easily tricked by this theatre- they say “Oh gosh he tells it like it is!”
The point is, no he’s not.
Even for those who think that other nations purchasing US-made military equipment and armaments, thereby contributing the the US economy and creating jobs and opportunities for American citizens ( remember part of the agenda for this meeting was to talk about Europe defense spending), well sorry! Vance undermined that too.
I don’t want anyone to read that “article” and think: Gee! He makes some good points! Because he doesn’t.
Bloomcole@lemm.ee 5 days ago
I bring up Azov to show the other side also supports the worst of the worst. And has relevance to this Munich farce. And Azov is OC a symbol. Maybe I should’ve chosen any of the other 8 nazi batallions they have like Sich, Tornado… After all Azov updated their wolfsangel logo so they totally stopped being fascist. If ony Hitler had’ve thought of that with the swastika. Also you may want to stop using “Ruzzia” as it makes you look stupid and I expect that on Reddit, X or wherever these paid nafo propaganda poodles and bots are active. The same pathetic losers using “Xi bucks, +100 social credit” when they have no arguments to counter a true statement that goes against their narrative.
“a foe that bombed a maternity and children’s hospital as one of the first things on their to-do list” See that’s exactly the propaganda you’ve been spoonfed. They have zero benefit in doing this. A clear false flag done by the Banderites. Same as the attack on the nuclear plant recently. Sure, with all the hypersonics they have the ebil Ruzzians really tried hard to blow that up using…a crappy drone. Makes as much sense as the attacking the Zaporozia plant while it’s under their control. Complete garbage. And I am European, I certainly don’t think we should be paying more on ‘defense’. Because it’s not ‘defense’, everything we buy in the NATO protection racket benefits the US MIC, is to fight their imperialist wars and we get to take care of the refugees. Russia is not our enemy. Despite what our sell out vasal leaders claim or possibly the fascist/racist Poles and Balts. Anyway, it doesn’t matter what Vance, Trump, zelenski says or decides. Only Russia will decide what is needed for their safety. They have rightfully called the west agreement incapable since they never keep their word. From 'not one inch to the east" to the Misk accords.
SeanBrently@lemm.ee 5 days ago
Oh I see. A pro-russian propagandist. Ok I won’t use a z for россия if it annoys you.
Well listen man, I’d be super interested to get your perspective on that Budapest memorandum thing that russia signed promising not to “threaten or use military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan…” It seems like when you break a big promise like that in a consistent, persistent, and intentional way then people (and nations) shouldn’t trust you. But what do you think?
Bloomcole@lemm.ee 5 days ago
“A pro-russian propagandist” Sigh. Yes OC we know, anyone going against your regime narrative is a Russian propagandist. I got my Rubles OK?
Budapest memorandum, really? Was the extremely violent coup and the factual war on Russian speaking east and south because they didn’t want to live under fascism a Russian operation? Or was it clearly a US regime change operation? So a complete non-argument.
The only country by far to break promises, treaties and international law in a consistent, persistent, and intentional way is obviously the US. Should we compare the lists?
SeanBrently@lemm.ee 5 days ago
Well, I feel like you’re not really addressing my question in good faith man. I am asking about a specific thing and you are pointing fingers in every other direction. Stop trying to make the case that россия is so hard done by, this is a deflection and not an actual answer.
Anyway this thing about the vice president is really 100% a domestic political issue and simply more proof that the current reĝime must be removed.