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Comment on Prime ministers' heads severed and stolen from bronze statues in Ballarat

princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

I really think that your and @Tau@aussie.zone’s have some really outdated beliefs here. At what point, after trying “respectably” to have their voices heard, are indigenous mob supposed to rise up?

As well, do you even know about your own history, and the history of this so-called country? Invasion Day celebrates the anniversary of Cook’s invasion of these lands. That is why his statues have been targeted around this date, because that is what is being celebrated on this day.

As a trans woman, I am always going to stand in solidarity with other minority groups. Always was, always will be.

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Tau@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

do you even know about your own history, and the history of this so-called country? Invasion Day celebrates the anniversary of Cook’s invasion of these lands.

My irony meter just overloaded…

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- princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  You’re right, I messed that one up, but honestly who actually cares? I certainly don’t.
  
  Why not have a day that we can all celebrate.
  
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  - WorldwideCommunity@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Pick a day that won’t offend someone and I will show you someone who is offended by it.
    
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    princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Yes, there are likely to be many people that are offended by the date being changed. But personally I don’t think we should base the future of our nation on the likes of Peter Dutton and his ilk.
    
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  - Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    Why not have a day that we can all celebrate?
    
    Yep. It’d be nice.
    
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Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Not outdated, just different to yours.

Its not useful to the vandals cause, whether sov-cits or Indigenous Australians, i’ve assumed its the latter in the rest of this comment.

I want to underline that i think there’s a place in Nation State democracies for civil disobedience, and violence as well to be used, just not in this case.

For the indigenous cause against aussie/invasion day its not the best way forward. You just create culture war fodder for powerful cunts to divide the nation with, especially in times of political stress.

The arguments that have taken this day from a July 4th-esque euphoric celebratory day to a quieter celebration are the civil arguments about the divisiveness about the date. It attacks the concept, not people, and thats something everybody can engage with, not become defensive against.

To boot, this argument is winning, every year Australia day comes round theres less flags, theres less parties, theres less of a thing made about the day.

As an example look at Dutton’s red meat to the base, ‘i won’t stand in front of a flag, mate!’, in the lead up to today. Didn’t exactly set the world on fire, it was pathetic and shallow.

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